Re: Loud enough??

Subject: Re: Loud enough??
From: Jean-Marc Pelletier (
Date: Fri Feb 26 1999 - 00:47:06 EST

I imagine walking into a museum and visiting an exhibition featuring
installations equiped with booby traps, functional ones that is.
I doubt that such a presentation would be deemed as "acceptable."
It's sad indeed that music is really the only art-form through which the
public can be inflicted permanent injuries without having most people raise
an eyebrow about it.

Extremely loud levels are not however only a problem in rock concerts and
dance clubs.
In every single electroacoustic concert I have attended in the past two
years levels have been pushed, sometimes consistently, beyond comfort.
As I am still young and have no intention on becoming the next Beethoven I
would like to see much more ethics put into sound diffusion when it comes
to overall amplitude.

Loudness is like a drug. Excess leeds to the impossibility to enjoys
"little things." And yet the enjoyment of ea music is primarily found in
those "little things" that become quite inaudible when levels are brought
as high as they are.
Pieces for tape and inter-modulation are no fun.

***Jean-Marc Pelletier***

"Il est plus facile de penser que l'on ne pense pas
que de ne pas penser que l'on pense." - Le Chat

> >Subject: loud sounds again
> >Dear List
> >
> >Thanks for all replies to my request, for your interest attached below.
> >Armed with my B&K 2260 Investigator this intrepid explorer set out
> >to sample some of Manchester's sounds. To my surprise most venues
> >have been extremely helpful and willing for me to take measurements.
> >It seems that I can get into just about any place free of charge.
> >Damm good thing that I took some precautions though, as recommened.
> >For example, in one venue which had PA with a power rating of a mean
> >20,000 W(!), I measured on one occasion an LAeq (equivalent continuous
> >level, A-weighting) of 111 dB. The peak of power was at 400 Hz (1/3
> >126 dB A weighting, fast response. (This would be about 130 dB on the C
> >weighting). At 111 dB OSHA gives the maximum allowable exposure per 8
> >day at at 26 minutes. ISO recommend 3.25 minutes maximum allowable
> >per 40 hour week!
> >The predominance of low frequencies, 500 Hz and less,
> >apparently the source of pleasure that loud dance music provides via
> >vibrotactile and other non-auditory sensations, is consistent with
> >to low frequency hearing (as well as high frequencies) that I have been
> >finding in a survey of undergraduate students who frequent dance clubs.
> >E.g. in 10 subjects I looked at so far I found the mean loss at 250 was
> >about 12 dB compared with 4 dB at 2 kHz.
> >Cheers
> >
> >Neil
> >***********************************
> >Dr Neil Todd
> >Lecturer in Psychology
> >University of Manchester
> >
> >tel. 0161 275 2557
> >***********************************
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