Re: What is music ... = spirals


Subject: Re: What is music ... = spirals
From: James Phelps (jimphelps_niucms@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Nov 20 2005 - 18:37:06 EST


Yeah ... treading way outta my "league" now ... but it
seems that color wheels (of which
there are various varieties) are often visual
conveniences used to illlustrate
relationships (e.g., "harmonicity") between different
colors. I guess this could be shown
by just stacking the colors up ... but wouldn't look
as pretty. :>)

I vaguely remember doing a paper as a graduate student
examining the parallels between
Goethe's Color Theory, illustrated with his own wheel,
and Schenker's theories, since
Schenker cites Goethe rather prominently.

Aaah ... life as a grad student. Now I just remodel
my bathroom and play my guitar. :>)

-Jim

--- Kenneth Newby <knewby@sfu.ca> wrote:

> Below is a representation of the spectral colors
> (rainbow, or produced
> by a triangular prism):
>
> >
>
> You can see quite clearly that there is no way a
> circle can be made of
> this spectrum without some considerable creative
> (extra-scientific?)
> effort, i.e. the construction of an "in between"
> blend that would make
> this possible. Newton was a creative character!
>
> Kenneth.
>
>
> On 20-Nov-05, at 1:49 PM, James Phelps wrote:
>
> > Hmmm ... I think this would bring into question
> > exactly WHAT about
> > electromagnetic radiation is being represented via
> the
> > circle metaphor and ...
> > thusly ... the same regarding vibrations of air
> > particles.
> >
> > -Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@videotron.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Have you noticed that the color spectrum (from
> red
> >> to violet ... red,
> >> orange, yellow, green, blue, violet) cab be
> >> represented as a circle
> >> (or perhaps a spiral?), while low frequency to
> high
> >> frequency sound
> >> do not form a 'circle', or spiral.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Very off topic ...
> >>
> >> And on a related (?) topic, does anyone have a
> more
> >> precise
> >> measurement of the perfect fifth (in cents) than
> >> 701.955 ... ? Using
> >> this more precise number, the pythagorean comma
> is
> >> 23.260 000 000
> >> 001. Using this more precise figure, the spiral
> away
> >> from the
> >> returning perfect fifth will itself spiral away,
> a
> >> helix on top of a
> >> helix.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:56 +0100 2005/11/20, stefaan watté wrote:
> >>> maybe of related interest;
> >>>
> >>> about pitch perception;
> >>>
> >>
> >> http://www.google.com/search?
> >>
>
client=opera&rls=nl&q=pitch+illusion&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> &
> >>>
> >>> http://www.philomel.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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