Re: Assistance Fwd:"Rainer Bürck" <>

Subject: Re: Assistance Fwd:"Rainer Bürck"
From: Kevin Austin (
Date: Thu Nov 17 2005 - 09:47:43 EST

>Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:39:49 +0100 (MET)
>From: "Rainer Bürck" <>
>Subject: Re: Assistance
>Hello Pierre Alexandre,
>There is the German musicologist Rudolf Frisius, who is an expert on
>Stockhausen. He might know where to find the passage you want to
>quote. I found a link to a website ( ), but this
>address seems not to be available at present. As far as I know,
>Frisius is member of DEGEM (the German society for electroacoustic
>music). If this is the case, I can find out his email address. I'll
>investigate and let you know. By the way, Prof. Frisius might also
>be able to help you with the quote from Xenakis.
>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>> Von: Kevin Austin <>
>> An:
>> Kopie:
>> Betreff: Assistance
>> Datum: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:29:05 -0500
>> From: Pierre Alexandre Tremblay <>
>> Subject: Assistance Needed - Stockhausen and Xenakis quote in French
>> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:48:43 +0000
>> Hello All !
>> I have a serious problem. While doing an early research for my ph.d.
>> years ago, I wrote two quotes in my scrapbook... and forgot to take
>> the references!
>> I know who are the authors, but I can't find in which book, and
>> obviously at which page... Since most of you have great knowledge of
>> these two composers, I kindly, modestly and publicly ask you if you
>> have an idea where I should pursue my research, otherwise I will have
>> to remove the quotes from my thesis...
>> Here they are:
>> As Iannis Xenakis (XX, p.XX) explains:
>> ‘Si un musicien est inspiré par une chose et qu’il tente de l’imiter,
>> il y a de fortes chances que le résultat soit tout à fait
>> inintéressant. Ce qui importe, c’est que cette inspiration génère en
>> lui des idées qui l’amèneront à créer quelque chose de différent, de
>> purement musical. Imiter d’une manière réaliste ce qui relève du
>> monde physique, humain ou social est sans intérêt. Et comme l’homme
>> n’est pas un dieu, il peut être inspiré : il vit dans un certain
>> environnement qui l’influence.’
>> As describes Karlheinz Stockhausen (XX, p.XX) :
>> ‘Dans toute musique composée de manière mobile, on devrait sentir
>> cette mobilité à la première audition. Dans le cas contraire, elle
>> est tout simplement mal composée.’
>> Thank you for your time and help.
>> pa
>> ps I have contacted Prof. Stockhausen directly from his web site, who
>> allows me to use this quote but don't know where it is from. And I
>> contacted the Xenakis Foundation that does not know where it comes
>> from...
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