Re: Assistance


Subject: Re: Assistance
From: Rainer Bürck (Rainer.Buerck@gmx.de)
Date: Thu Nov 17 2005 - 02:39:49 EST


Hello Pierre Alexandre,

There is the German musicologist Rudolf Frisius, who is an expert on
Stockhausen. He might know where to find the passage you want to quote. I
found a link to a website ( www.frisius.de ), but this address seems not
to be available at present. As far as I know, Frisius is member of DEGEM
(the German society for electroacoustic music). If this is the case, I can
find out his email address. I'll investigate and let you know. By the way,
Prof. Frisius might also be able to help you with the quote from Xenakis.

Best

Rainer

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@videotron.ca>
> An: cec-conference@concordia.ca
> Kopie: tremblap@gmail.com
> Betreff: Assistance
> Datum: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:29:05 -0500
>
>
> From: Pierre Alexandre Tremblay <tremblap@gmail.com>
> Subject: Assistance Needed - Stockhausen and Xenakis quote in French
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:48:43 +0000
>
> Hello All !
>
> I have a serious problem. While doing an early research for my ph.d.
> years ago, I wrote two quotes in my scrapbook... and forgot to take
> the references!
>
> I know who are the authors, but I can't find in which book, and
> obviously at which page... Since most of you have great knowledge of
> these two composers, I kindly, modestly and publicly ask you if you
> have an idea where I should pursue my research, otherwise I will have
> to remove the quotes from my thesis...
>
> Here they are:
>
> As Iannis Xenakis (XX, p.XX) explains:
> ‘Si un musicien est inspiré par une chose et qu’il tente de l’imiter,
> il y a de fortes chances que le résultat soit tout à fait
> inintéressant. Ce qui importe, c’est que cette inspiration génère en
> lui des idées qui l’amèneront à créer quelque chose de différent, de
> purement musical. Imiter d’une manière réaliste ce qui relève du
> monde physique, humain ou social est sans intérêt. Et comme l’homme
> n’est pas un dieu, il peut être inspiré : il vit dans un certain
> environnement qui l’influence.’
>
> As describes Karlheinz Stockhausen (XX, p.XX) :
> ‘Dans toute musique composée de manière mobile, on devrait sentir
> cette mobilité à la première audition. Dans le cas contraire, elle
> est tout simplement mal composée.’
>
> Thank you for your time and help.
>
> pa
>
> ps I have contacted Prof. Stockhausen directly from his web site, who
> allows me to use this quote but don't know where it is from. And I
> contacted the Xenakis Foundation that does not know where it comes
> from...
>
>

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