Re: On illegal software in an academic assignment ...

Subject: Re: On illegal software in an academic assignment ...
From: Michael Gogins (
Date: Mon Nov 14 2005 - 00:37:31 EST

I have lots of questions -- I hope you will patient with me. First, what
were the frustrations that drove you away from Csound?

Other questions:

Does Max/MSP have dynamic voice allocation?

Tied notes?

How many phase vocoder implementations does Max/MSP have?

Can Max/MSP compute in double precision?

Can Max/MSP compute 1 audio sample per control sample?

What languages does Max/MSP allow you to write unit generators in?

Patches in?

What languagesdoes Max/MSP allow you to write scripts controlling Max/MSP

I understand that different approaches to software synthesis suit different
people. Do you find the graphical patching approach more suitable, or do you
find writing code more suitable?

How much support is there in Max/MSP for writing pieces as code?

Do you do primarily real-time pieces, or do you primarily render off-line?

Do you do any kind of algorithmic composition?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Wentk" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: On illegal software in an academic assignment ...

> At 00:17 14/11/2005, you wrote:
>>Open source derives from academia, of course. AT&T licensed UNIX to
>>universities, who redistributed sources. This was the origin of the
>>concept or attitude that software should be free. From UNIX came a
>>professor's toy operating system Minix, and from Minix came Linux. So the
>>lineage is very clear.
> No, it's not, because there's a strong political element that's specific
> to Californian hacker culture with a bit of MIT crossover, and not the
> university ideal in general. Academic products have mostly not, in
> practice, been designed to be shared freely. Hence the long and convoluted
> history of the various UNIX incarnations. Universities, especially in the
> US, have always been keen to develop ties with industry and to make
> commercial efforts to capitalise on IP.
> The real relationship between IP and university development is a
> complicated one, and nowhere close to the ideal you're suggesting.
>>What is the source of your opinion about Csound? What experience do you
>>have with it, especially with Csound 5?
> You mean apart from trying to use it and being on the Csound list for 11
> years?
> I gave up recently when I finally got a copy of Max/MSP last year.
> Although I still lurk on the Cs5 developers list, I don't have any serious
> interest in anything that Cs5 is doing at the moment, because Max/MSP does
> almost all of it, if not far more, already - including its own take on
> scripting, and an API of sorts.
> Richard

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