Re: On illegal software in an academic assignment ...


Subject: Re: On illegal software in an academic assignment ...
From: Elainie Lillios (lillios@bgnet.bgsu.edu)
Date: Mon Nov 14 2005 - 11:15:50 EST


And here all this time I thought PD stood for "Puckett Didit"!
;-)

On Nov 13, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Steven Rice wrote:

> Sylvi,
>
> PD is PureData, which is a programming environment created by Miller
> Puckette, who was instrumental in creating MAX/MSP. Download it,
> compile it on OSX and play around with it. It's a lot like MAX/MSP,
> but different in substantial ways.
>
> you can get it here:
>
> http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html
>
> here is the PD community:
>
> http://pure-data.iem.at/
>
> -Steven
>
> On 11/13/05, sylvi macCormac <macCormac@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> hello
>>
>> a mac user a byt behind th times, using word & protoolstoolbox and
>> other stuff.
>> what is PD ? just so i'm not lost as i read th next 2006
>> messages ... thanks
>> (ascii smile).
>>
>> pest regards, sylvi macCormac
>>
>> Rick wrote:
>>
>>> There are alternatives in some cases.
>>>
>>> OpenOffice.Org, a project by Sun (Google just joined in) for many
>>> years provides a very capable word processor with most, if not all,
>>> the relevant functions of MSWord. It also has a presentation
>>> package,
>>> a spreadsheet, and a few other things I think that MS lacks. It's
>>> fully MSWord compatible (althought the kerning tables are a bit
>>> different so imports aren't always exact). It's open source,
>>> multi-platform and multi-lingual.
>>>
>>> MAX/MSP was replaced by PD for a few of our ex-students who decided
>>> NOT that they were AGAINST stealing software, but they really just
>>> wanted something of their own since they planned on making it
>>> part of
>>> their future.
>>>
>>> r
>>>
>>> On 11/13/05, Owen Green <o.t.green@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> (As student, ex corporate software developer)
>>>>
>>>> I've always found myself curiously ambivilent, which I'm sure
>>>> will make
>>>> me a moral vacuum in some people's opinion. Whilst there is
>>>> clearly an
>>>> eithical issue associated with copyright violation, I've never been
>>>> convinced with the application of "theft" in this context,
>>>> although it
>>>> obviously makes for rousing polemic. As far as it goes, I
>>>> wouldn't mind
>>>> if the big 5 were starved out of business, as they're a blight
>>>> on the
>>>> species; OTOH, I would be deeply upset if C74 were starved out
>>>> of business.
>>>>
>>>> As for plagarism, I don't see how you get there at all. Accepting
>>>> 'theft' for the moment; if I write an essay with a stolen
>>>> ballpoint on
>>>> stolen paper, is that now plagrism? Using software libraries as
>>>> part of
>>>> some work doesn't change in terms of the intellectual egangement
>>>> with
>>>> those libraries regardless of whether one has honoured their
>>>> nominal
>>>> exchange-value, viz. saying you wrote something in an
>>>> environment which
>>>> you happened to have obtained unethically is not the same as
>>>> handing in
>>>> the environment as your own work (i.e. plagarism).
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, unless the university is exposed to some liability,
>>>> why is
>>>> it any of their business?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kevin Austin wrote:
>>>>> Any comments on this? academic, student, interested by-stander,
>>>>> software
>>>>> developer ... etc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ======================
>>> Rick Nance
>>> De Montfort University
>>> Leicester, UK
>>> RickNance.org
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Steven Rice, M.M.
> Composer
> Baltimore, MD
> http://riceklang.com
>



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