Re: On illegal software in an academic assignment ...

Subject: Re: On illegal software in an academic assignment ...
From: Richard Wentk (
Date: Sun Nov 13 2005 - 21:33:49 EST

At 00:17 14/11/2005, you wrote:
>Open source derives from academia, of course. AT&T licensed UNIX to
>universities, who redistributed sources. This was the origin of the
>concept or attitude that software should be free. From UNIX came a
>professor's toy operating system Minix, and from Minix came Linux. So the
>lineage is very clear.

No, it's not, because there's a strong political element that's specific to
Californian hacker culture with a bit of MIT crossover, and not the
university ideal in general. Academic products have mostly not, in
practice, been designed to be shared freely. Hence the long and convoluted
history of the various UNIX incarnations. Universities, especially in the
US, have always been keen to develop ties with industry and to make
commercial efforts to capitalise on IP.

The real relationship between IP and university development is a
complicated one, and nowhere close to the ideal you're suggesting.

>What is the source of your opinion about Csound? What experience do you
>have with it, especially with Csound 5?

You mean apart from trying to use it and being on the Csound list for 11 years?

I gave up recently when I finally got a copy of Max/MSP last year. Although
I still lurk on the Cs5 developers list, I don't have any serious interest
in anything that Cs5 is doing at the moment, because Max/MSP does almost
all of it, if not far more, already - including its own take on scripting,
and an API of sorts.


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