Re: CIMESP-Results Fwd:

Subject: Re: CIMESP-Results Fwd:
From: bill thompson (
Date: Sat Nov 05 2005 - 08:20:44 EST

hi eliot and all,

interesting conversation, though i wouldn't want my
piece to be the one representing the genre of ea for a
debate (for good or bad) :) but i agree with many of
your comments in general (though, i haven't listened
to the piece in question and am not commenting on that

i wonder if the issue really is that ea, atleast in
academic circles/world is now a genre, much as any
other music style, and thus has its recognizable
staple sounds/gestures/forms. good is recognized by
how well someone's piece relates to those established
paradigms, while still perhaps slipping a 'bit' of
innovation in...but not so much that it is
unrecognizable in relation to other works that have
become the ideal by which we judge them?

i actually think that this is the case. though, saying
that, i do have a few friends who are working in this
field that i think are doing good work, approaching
the genre freshly, not by rote, while still practicing
within its boundaries.

my own frustration though is when this idea of it
being a genre/style is not recognized or when/if ea is
tauted as the supreme/ultimate form of
electronic/computer based musics. it's not. it's just
one branch. it's a good branch, well developed, lots
of intelligence within the work, but sometimes i feel
a bit myopic.

personally i find it frustrating having a different
voice and finding little or no room for it in academia
because the approach/sounds that i use don't fit the
'genre.' there's no contests for what i do, other then
the commission or invitation to perform.

but that's my choice and if i wanted to fit in i guess
i could write acousmatic pieces. plenty of people
doing that though, and probably better than what i
would produce. better for me to 'do me' rather then
emulate x/y/z etc. (imo and probably x/y/z's lol.)

on another topic though, you mentioned your theory:

>>>Assuming the listener found that to be the
best bit, then his map starts from that point

actually, i think it's often the opposite...that a
listener remembers the part they hated most! unless
they're attempting to find something they liked etc.
in other words, if a piece had a part that was really
annoying to me, i'd tend to remember that part, and
then in trying to be positive, recall 'well, it had a
good ending' etc...still similar in concept to what
you're saying but i think significantly different.


"The more you think about things the weirder they seem." -Calvin

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