Re: sound diffusion/projection fees


Subject: Re: sound diffusion/projection fees
From: Ian Chuprun (ian@7circles.ca)
Date: Fri Oct 28 2005 - 10:42:06 EDT


Ryan Supak wrote:
> What is diffusion, exactly?

Exactly?

I would like to defer to Scott Wyatt:

"Sound diffusion refers to both an aesthetic and a performance practice
of further enhancing the spatial components of an electroacoustic music
composition by electronically delivering musical gestures, phrases, or
single sounds to different loudspeaker locations surrounding the
audience space by an additional performer, often referred to as the
sound diffusor or projectionist. The key distinction here is "live
performance by a diffusion artist or projectionist" rather than sound
movement by means of a purely automated system or encoding/decoding
process."

from: http://cec.concordia.ca/econtact/Diffusion/Investigative.htm

and Jonty Harrison:

"Questions about diffusion can be reduced to three main issues: “what”,
“how” and “why”? Whilst it is relatively easy to deal with “what” and
“how” because they are primarily technical in nature, there is little
point in doing so without also considering the much more involved and
difficult question of “why”. For it is here that we find the reasons for
sound diffusion - the real-time, usually manual, control of relative
levels and spatial deployment during performance - remaining one of the
most contentious issues in electroacoustic music. Why should this be so?
Why should it arouse such passion? I offer two theories.

Firstly, diffusion is often seen only as a performance issue - something
separate from composition. I should like to challenge this assumption
and assert that within the acousmatic tradition, descended from musique
concrčte, composition and performance are inextricably linked -
diffusion being, in effect, a continuation of the compositional process.

Secondly, much contemporary music, including electroacoustic music, has
taken little heed of what Pierre Schaeffer opened up to composers over
fifty years ago, continuing instead the traditional musical paradigm,
predicated predominantly on the supposedly “objective truth” of the
score as documentation of the composer's thought. Being readily
susceptible to measurement (of pitch, duration, dynamic, etc), notation
has enabled generations of musicologists and analysts to persuade us
that musical value resides in architectonic, quantitative criteria,
which are assumed to be, and can be demonstrated to be, part of a
conceptual construct which precedes sound. I should like to challenge
this view of music, offering instead organic, qualitative criteria for
musical construction, based on the perceptual realities to be found in
sound material itself - and this is the precise basis of musique concrčte."

from: http://cec.concordia.ca/econtact/Diffusion/Beast.htm

Lastly it is a good idea to visualize a system, so have a look at:

http://music.concordia.ca/Facilities.html#anchor377592

Cheers!

Ian

>
> Is it paying somebody to set up the pa/configure the acoustics/etc... to
> play back a static version of your piece?
>
> Or, do they "play" the piece in addition to this?
>
> Thanks
> rs
>
> On 10/28/05, Ian Chuprun <ian@7circles.ca <mailto:ian@7circles.ca>> wrote:
>
> A big thanks to everyone who replied, either here or in private. The
> replies fell into three groups, listed below.
>
> Remember, this was for a 10 minute diffusion (not the diffusionist's own
> piece), including prep, rehearsal time and the performance. The
> ranges were:
>
> 1. $0-$20 USD
> 2. $120-$175 USD
> 3. The going rate for an instrumentalist in that particular place (here
> in Montreal this means it would be $268).
>
> The idea that a diffusionist is equal to an instrumentalist is very
> interesting. I do not necessarily agree, but at least the pay scale is
> way better ;-)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> Thomas Gerwin wrote:
> > Hi Ian;
> >
> > I am doing this regularly in my concert series KLANGWELTEN and in
> other
> > concerts too. The fee for the sound diffusion is handled like the fee
> > for a traditional musician - the "diffusionist" needs to invest
> the same
> > amount of work as an instrument player.
> >
> > Best,
> > Thomas
> >
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> >
> >
> > "Ian Chuprun" <ian@7circles.ca <mailto:ian@7circles.ca>> schrieb:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > does anyone have any idea about a reasonable fee to pay for
> someone
> > > doing a sound diffusion/projection? If the diffusionist had to
> diffuse a
> > > 10 minute piece, (not their own piece), with the prep work,
> rehearsal
> > > and the actual diffusion, what would be a reasonable amount to
> pay for
> > > the work?
> > >
> > > Has anyone here been paid to do a sound diffusion? I cannot
> seem to find
> > > anything on this on the web so I guess it might be the
> beginning of
> > > something new, but I'm sure there are a few individuals around
> who were
> > > paid for this work. Please let me know, either here or in
> private.
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > ian@7circles.ca <mailto:ian@7circles.ca>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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