Re: traduction/translation


Subject: Re: traduction/translation
From: Chris Leon (chrisleon@videotron.ca)
Date: Wed Oct 26 2005 - 08:54:18 EDT


I just read a text by Michel Chion in which he says:
  "When we identify the pitch of a tone or figure out an interval
between two notes, we are doing reduced listening; for pitch is an
inherent characteristic of sound independent of the sound's cuse or the
comprehension of its meaning."

So if your your context is Chion then that English translation from the
English translations of Audio-Vision is probably correct.

chris

On 26-Oct-05, at 10:17 AM, Eliot Handelman wrote:

> The term almost certainly originates in
> Edmund Husserl's "phenomenological reduction." I don't
> know what Schaeffer's intellectual props were but it
> would be rather amazing if he'd never studied Merleau-Ponty
> (phenomenology of perception, etc.) this having been
> exceedingly fashionable in his day.
>
> -- eliot
>
>
>
>
> Louis Dufort wrote:
>
>> Isn't not "Easy Listening"? ;-)
>>
>> Sorry folks this was too easy and I'm in a corny mood (to much rain in
>> MTL)...
>>
>>
>> le 10/25/05 8:07 PM, Kevin Austin à kevin.austin@videotron.ca a écrit
>> :
>>
>>
>>> Many, among them: reduced hearing, reduced listening, naive hearing /
>>> listening (see also
>>> http://www.ears.dmu.ac.uk/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=204 )
>>>
>>> You may (or may not) find the definition / translation proposed to be
>>> in accord with your understanding of the term in french.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 19:49 -0400 2005/10/25, Chantale Laplante wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quelqu'un -quelqu'une saurait-il
>>>> la traduction en anglais de écoute réduite
>>>> (Anyone could suggest a translation?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Chantale Laplante
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Ears article says, in part:
>>>
>>> In Schaefferian theory, reduced listening is the attitude which
>>> consists in listening to the sound for its own sake, as a sound
>>> object by removing its real or supposed source and the meaning it may
>>> convey.
>>>
>>> ... In reduced listening our listening intention targets the event
>>> which the sound object is itself (and not to which it refers) and the
>>> values which it carries in itself (and not the ones it suggests).
>>>
>>> ... Reduced listening is therefore an "anti-natural" process, which
>>> goes against all conditioning. The act of removing all our habitual
>>> references in listening is a voluntary and artificial act which
>>> allows us to clarify many phenomena implicit in our perception.
>>>
>>> Thus, the name reduced listening refers to the notion of
>>> phenomenological reduction (Époché), because it consists to some
>>> extent of stripping the perception of sound of everything that is not
>>> "it itself" in order to hear only the sound, in its materiality, its
>>> substance, its perceivable dimensions.
>>>
>>> Reduced listening and the sound object are thus correlates of each
>>> other; they define each other mutually and respectively as perceptual
>>> activity and object of perception.
>>>
>>>
>>> For me, there are a number of fundamental problems with the original
>>> concept, but it is, as stated, a theory.
>>>
>>>
>>
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