Re: Archiving and access & analysis = (bo po mo fo?)

Subject: Re: Archiving and access & analysis = (bo po mo fo?)
From: Shane Turner (
Date: Sun Oct 16 2005 - 20:25:14 EDT

In Chinese characters there tends to exist a certain heirarchy in the way
ideas are ordered. For example, to describe metals, the left hand side uses
the "gold" radical. The right hand side then changes depending on whether
the metal is steel, copper, etc. It is also the same for certain kinds of
fish, there is a fish radical on the left hand side, and an alternate
(pronounced) radical on the right hand side. The wikipedia article gives a
good example of this concept with the "woman" radical.

One would first have to figure out what kind of heirarchy to use in grouping
sounds into "sound families."?

drone - parallel fifths - metal percussion


(This is starting to sound like my hard drive.)

function - sonic elements/instruments - onomatopeia?
or Vica versa?

!OT: I've thought that Chinese characters, being modular, descriptive, and
taking up little space on paper, would be perfect for such things. Each of
the above examples could be abbreviated into a space of just a few
characters, instead of twenty. Too bad they have such a (seemingly)
difficult initial learning curve.


> Can you think of the device I am describing here:
> electric voice
> electric image
> electric brain
> electric fire
> electric candle
> electric oil-cooker
> electric sound-capture
> electric over-ears
> electric wheels
> electric cold
> In english looking at these words tends not to (on the surface) show the
> relationship, so it may be that words need to be handled in new ways in
> order to catalog sounds.
> Notice that Eliot's sounds were mostly onomatopoeic, and several shared
> the same amplitude envelope (the energy-release envelope).
> Lots of words and lots of descriptions needed to start the process.
> Best
> Kevin
> At 12:19 -0600 2005/10/16, sylvi macCormac wrote:
>>Kevin wrote : i have developed my own very very crude shorthand / symbol
>>set for creating timelines of sounds / sound files.
>>we could always start (stop) with that ...
>>xoxo, sylvi macCormac

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