Archiving, analysis & momentary and quantized time

Subject: Archiving, analysis & momentary and quantized time
From: Kevin Austin (
Date: Sun Oct 16 2005 - 16:04:05 EDT

I beg to differ, because (until implemented) there is no 'automatic'
description-generating machine. It's still (sadly) done by human

Among my other favorite phrases are: "It's simple", ""All you have do
is ...", "People will ...".

The other points in the post I find to be on track. The label has to
be potent (and robust) in its descriptor. How about: "Find all sounds
42 seconds long", but that won't get very far.

This leads to the idea of the difference between a sampled signal,
one in which what is encoded is the momentary displacement of the air
(as is done in recording -- 78 rpm, tape or digital), and quantized
time -- which seems to be what the human mind works in.

The labels are about "quantized time", unless one want to find all of
the examples of 1000100100111001 ... which is likely trivial.

But to find examples of 'vocal resonances in bell-like sonorities'
... probably not in my lifetime.



At 15:47 -0700 2005/10/16, Eliot Handelman wrote:
>Kevin Austin wrote:
>>This is an interesting approach and could generate some results of
>>a general nature. I think that the community Ned is speaking of is
>>more 'refined' than this however, and the keywords would (at some
>>time) need to be linked to some form of marker within the file.
>It's trivial. You have a page per sound with descriptors. Even if
>only to get some sense whether our labelling concepts are at all
>similiar it could be interesting. All that's needed are many people
>to contribute
>As a database linking sounds with verbal descriptions it could open up
>all sorts of research.
>>Once this 'not so trivial' task has been accomplished, the greater
>>task begins. The 'labeling' one I would consider somewhat
>>equivalent to labeling half close cadences in Bach chorales.
>That's more or less like labelling a sound by its duration -- lacks
>affective zing. If you said "this is a squishy half cadence" you
>might come closer.
>-- eliot

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