Archiving and access & analysis

Subject: Archiving and access & analysis
From: Kevin Austin (
Date: Sun Oct 16 2005 - 15:04:28 EDT

This is an interesting approach and could generate some results of a
general nature. I think that the community Ned is speaking of is more
'refined' than this however, and the keywords would (at some time)
need to be linked to some form of marker within the file.

Once this 'not so trivial' task has been accomplished, the greater
task begins. The 'labeling' one I would consider somewhat equivalent
to labeling half close cadences in Bach chorales. This is a general,
but specific context, for it says ... a phrase ending on the dominant.

[Simplified!] One does not have to segment (as the pauses mark the
end of phrases), and there is little need to 'contextualize', as II6
- V is equivalent to iv6 - V, or I - V (etc). What I have not seen in
analyses of the Back chorales is the linking of text / textual
implications of the hymns to the use of the half-close cadence. This
requires another kind of 'mind' -- one where analysis is not (simply)
description and statistics.

In ea, the first step has barely been started. There is a weakly
defined corpus, and even though there is the web, in my experience,
more ea composers are familiar with some traditional orchestral works
(Beethoven / Mozart / Bach etc etc ) than with (say) 20 pieces
composed after 1980 ... 25 years ago!

This is not to say that ea composers haven't heard lots of pieces, we
just haven't heard many of the same ones! This is part of the reason
for the conception and creation of



At 14:49 -0700 2005/10/16, Eliot Handelman wrote:
>Kevin Austin wrote:
>>At 10:36 -0400 2005/10/16, Ned Bouhalassa wrote:
>>>On 15-Oct-05, at 11:56 PM, Kevin Austin wrote:
>>>>Such a project would face the same issues that all archiving has
>>>>to, namely, how to sort and catalog so that things can be found.
>>>Keywords might be sufficient.
>>In my experience, this is not "trivial" (*)
>It's known technology and you can use google for it. Users supply
>descriptions or reinforce those available via wiki. It could be an
>interesting experiment.
>-- eliot

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