Narrative and Semantic (I)


Subject: Narrative and Semantic (I)
From: Kevin Austin (kevin.austin@videotron.ca)
Date: Tue Oct 11 2005 - 00:28:20 EDT


I don't agree with this statement. I find 'music' no more devoid of
explicit semantic content than verbal language. Again there is the
comment about what "really" is present -- different models of reality
I guess.

IMV, the language (either verbal or musical) does not contain the
semantic content, this is supplied by the person who receives the
'message'.

   Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,
   Time held me green and dying
   Though I sang in my chains like the sea.

>Richard Wentk (or Eliot) wrote:
>
>>The final destination here is to wonder if because music has no
>>explicit semantic content, what it's really made of is the bag of
>>timbral, tonal and rhythmic tricks that aid memorability in speech
>>commnication *if you remove the semantic content of what's being
>>said*

Ah ... I see you have been studying Chinese as well. Fellow travelers.

>> - in other words tricks like repetition, assonance, alliteration,
>>onomatopeia, and self-similarity (rhyme).

Rhyme: self-similarity of spectrum.

>>But sound on its own can never *be* that kind of narrative, because
>>it doesn't offer the full range of semantic features that speech
>>and text do.

For me, musics offer a wider range of semantic features than speech
and text, but that could be my fundamental illiteracy (having grown
up in the slums of North London).

Best

Kevin



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