Re: Let's Talk About College


Subject: Re: Let's Talk About College
From: Navid Navab (navid.nav@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Oct 05 2005 - 04:44:20 EDT


On 10/4/05, Morgan Sutherland <skiptracer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well that changes many things! Thank you.
>
> On 10/4/05, John Nowak <lists@johnnowak.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:44 AM, Morgan Sutherland wrote:
> >
> > > Are you serious? You must realize that my improper word choice should
> > > not be taken with such offense!
> >
> > I'll make sure to go by your facial expressions next time.
> >
> > > I'm looking at colleges. I have not seen any of them.
> >
> > And you're not going to. Going to college for "computer music" is a
> > losing game. I tried that. Doesn't work. Try adjusting your focus to
> > "new media art" and things go a lot easier. At the very least, you
> > get to build artful robots and make perdy video installations if you
> > do it right. Single channel media doesn't cut it in this post-post-
> > modern age boy. You've got to do it all! Once you realize that,
> > you'll soon realize most colleges that offer such things suck, but
> > there are a few that Suck Less™. I happen to think the Design &
> > Technology program at Parsons is one of them. Good atmosphere. RISD
> > is a mess. It's Parsons or the west coast for you; At least as far as
> > I know. Another way to go is snagging a liberal arts degree if you're
> > a patient type. Eugene Lang is a great way to waste your time.
> > Columbia is good if you're the ambitious type. Honestly, don't go the
> > the west coast. They're crazies out there.
> >
> > > Yeah, saying "aim higher" may have been the
> > > wrong words, but that is what I've gathered so far, that Berklee is a
> > > sort of music trade school (the best albeit), but not, as a college, a
> > > competitor with Columbia or MIT for instance.
> >
> > No, you're entirely right. Berklee sucks. Who wants to hang out with
> > a bunch of John Mayer wannabes?
> >
> > > I've learned to watch my mouth when speaking of universities, but you
> > > must allow me to the room to learn this lesson.
> >
> > Honestly, hit me up off list if you want some help. I just felt like
> > taking the piss out of you a bit first... Mostly because I was acting
> > the same way not too long ago. Do take seriously what I said above
> > though. College is largely a massive scam. It isn't really a "get the
> > best" sort of game. It is much more a "get the least worst".
> > Especially if your main interest is computer music. I think you're
> > beginning to see that already.
> >
> > I also have a severe "ability to word things in a non-dick manner"
> > problem, especially as now when I just woke up. Don't let my tone
> > stop you from taking me seriously though... Just having been through
> > this myself, I'd suggest I'm saving you a lot of time. Hizzah.
> >
> > Okay, coffee time... I'll regret this later...
> >
> > - John
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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