Re: Quick guide to postmodernism (was: Re: Gibson (was: Re: Computer chicken))


Subject: Re: Quick guide to postmodernism (was: Re: Gibson (was: Re: Computer chicken))
From: bill thompson (innerd00r@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Oct 01 2005 - 20:25:49 EDT


well, it's certainly food for thought :)

thanx,

b.

--- Eliot Handelman <eliot@generation.net> wrote:

> bill thompson wrote:
>
> >hi eliot,
> >
> >do you have any books that might relate some of the
> >more subtle aspects of p.m. to time-based media
> (sonic
> >art, but not limited to) that you could recommend?
> or
> >does anyone else?
> >
> >b.
> >
> >
> >
> It's very easy to understand what PM is about in
> music (or
> "postmusical") terms.
>
> Schoenberg was modern. Glass is postmodern. One has
> an inner system of
> secret codes. The
> other put his system on the surface. Importantly,
> the result "sounds
> good." This is because
> if it sounded bad, that would be a kind of appeal to
> an inner
> adjustment. In PM there's no such thing
> as "inner".
>
> PM means "we're living in an increasingly
> externalized world." There are
> certain analogies that
> can be made with schizophrenia. The main thing that
> happens in
> schizophrenia is the disintegration
> of self. In the same way, "life outside" in the PM
> world involves
> seriously rethinking what
> we mean by saying "I."
>
> There isn't a very clear test to find out whether a
> given work of art is
> postmodern or
> not, which suggests that PM is still *a bit* of an
> "inner" topic. In the
> future, we won;t have to
> worry about this: the distinctions between "the
> right art" and "the
> wrong art" will be crystal clear.
>
> You can use that as a kind of test by asking the
> following question:
> "does this art seem to contribute to
> the idea that art should be unambiguously right?"
>
> If it goes off into reality, for example, then the
> answer could be
> "yes," because if art has to be real
> then "the wrong kind of art" will seem to be wrong
> because it's not real
> enough. "Real" here
> has to mean "physical, embodied reality." The
> imagination is not
> enough. Verification is required.
>
>
> does that help?
>
> -- eliot
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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