Re: Let's Talk About College


Subject: Re: Let's Talk About College
From: Morgan Sutherland (skiptracer@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Oct 01 2005 - 12:37:52 EDT


Ah, perhaps I'm confused. I'm not afriad of theory, but of
performance. This is why I shy away from music programs and schools
with an emphasis on instrumentalism.

On 9/30/05, Michael Gogins <gogins@pipeline.com> wrote:
> Theory and performance are quite different, no?
>
> What is about about _theory_ that scared you?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Morgan Sutherland" <skiptracer@gmail.com>
> To: <cec-conference@concordia.ca>
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Let's Talk About College
>
>
> > I'm afraid of music theory because I've taken piano lessons in the
> > past and I really didn't like it. I ended up just noodling a lot. It's
> > the playing of other people's music that I hate the most.
> >
> > I'm also terrified of being an inferior instrumentalist and struggling
> > to keep up. I can improv alright... but the only thing I can half play
> > is Stairway to Heaven.
> >
> > Maybe that doesn't mean anything.
> >
> > On 9/30/05, Michael Gogins <gogins@pipeline.com> wrote:
> >> You should probably get a degree in composition at a school where
> >> computer music is valued, such as Columbia, Princeton, Stanford, NYU,
> >> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (sure about those, no doubt
> >> there are others).
> >>
> >> Some schools teach 'music technology' which has little to do with what I
> >> call computer music, though that is not always true (NYU has computer
> >> music in its MT program, as well as in the composition degree in the
> >> music school). I get the vague feeling that MT programs try to split the
> >> difference between educating producers (a sort of composer) and educating
> >> recording engineers. Usually the MT program offers a master's degree
> >> (graduate education for professional practice) and the music program
> >> offers a master's (graduate educaton for artistic practice) and a
> >> docorate (graduate education for teaching and research).
> >>
> >> Berklee might work for you.
> >>
> >> Prove to the admissions officers that you will make the cut by sending
> >> them pieces and software that make the cut. Good references will help.
> >>
> >> What's so scary about theory? Sometimes these fears tell us something,
> >> and we should do what we are afraid of -- sometimes not! We recognize
> >> that traditional music theory, as well as contemporary often mathematical
> >> music theory, has little to say to some composers these days, but to
> >> other composers it may be vital. In any case a theory course may come
> >> with ear training, analysis, and music history which are invaluable. I
> >> myself find contemporary theory fascinating because I am interested in
> >> algorithmic composition.
> >>
> >> If in fact you do not make the cut but still want to make music, move to
> >> a region where these good schools exist, get a day job, and just make
> >> music and hang out with people. If you do good work you'll find a place
> >> and be respected even if you don't go the academic route.
> >>
> >> In any event shoot for the top first, because if you do make the cut they
> >> will help you out with money if you need it.
> >>
> >> It might be a good idea to bum around and visit campuses and talk people
> >> up, listen to their music.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Morgan Sutherland <skiptracer@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Sep 30, 2005 3:45 PM
> >> To: cec-conference@concordia.ca
> >> Subject: Let's Talk About College
> >>
> >> It's a little early, but soon it's going to be time for me to start
> >> looking at colleges. Here's what I want in a college:
> >>
> >> I live in Massachusetts. This means that anywhere not in New England
> >> is a plane ride away pretty much. This adds a few thousand dollars to
> >> the tuition price. I'm not rich. Let's essentially disregard this for
> >> the moment however. California for all extensive purposes is not going
> >> to be out of the question. The U.K. however, is.
> >>
> >> Fields of study. The short unspecific answer: Computer music.
> >> I'm not sure exactly what field of study I want to enter, but I know
> >> what I don't want.
> >> I don't want to be a music major. Music theory isn't a passion for me.
> >> I'm afraid of it.
> >> I get the feeling that doing something along the lines of
> >> Computer-science major/Music minor or vice versa wouldn't be what I'm
> >> into. I'd be into the combination of it.
> >> What does an electroacoustics major entail? Is that essentially a
> >> "computer music" degree?
> >> Clarifcation in this area would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> What I want to do:
> >> Make music throughout my whole life. Hopefully make money from it.
> >> Design software/hardware for the creation of music. I'm very
> >> interested in interfaces. My mind could change of course completely,
> >> but this is where I want to aim. That general area.
> >>
> >> Combining computer science and music, but not as mutually exclusive
> >> entities, that's where I want to go.
> >>
> >> My grades are good. B+/A-. My GPA is currently a 3.65. It should go up
> >> to a 3.7 this year. I've been getting better grades than in the past.
> >> My PSAT scores have been good (haven't taken SATs yet). They've been
> >> very good: A's.
> >> My grades have fluctuated a lot however. There are a few C's and an F in
> >> there.
> >>
> >> I would like to go somewhere with research opportunities. Because of
> >> this, many of the top universities are interesting, but I'm not sure
> >> I'll make the cut.
> >>
> >> What I've been interested in so far:
> >>
> >> Concordia in Montreal www.concordia.ca
> >> Art Institute of Chicago
> >> http://www.artic.edu/saic/programs/depts/undergrad/sound.html
> >> MIT (Mass Institute of Technology) www.mit.edu
> >> Columbia University in New York http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/
> >> Stanford University http://ccrma.stanford.edu/
> >> CalArts (CREATE program)
> >> http://shoko.calarts.edu/ms_info/compnm_info.html
> >> University of Washington (DX Arts) http://www.washington.edu/dxarts/
> >> University of Santa Barbara (Create with Curtis Roads)
> >> http://www.create.ucsb.edu/create/createWeb/about/news.php
> >>
> >> Add to my list!
> >>
> >> I'd also looove to attend MIT (Media Lab) or Dartmouth
> >> (electroacoustics) for their graduate programs.
> >>
> >> Recommendations? Comments? Questions?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>



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