Re: Let's Talk About College

Subject: Re: Let's Talk About College
From: Larry Austin (
Date: Fri Sep 30 2005 - 17:12:02 EDT

Once more, Morgan Sutherland, you exhibit your ignorance. Richard
Boulanger, a highly respected composer and author, teaches
computer music synthesis at Berklee. I understand that the program
is strong and highly respected.

Larry Austin

Morgan Sutherland wrote:

> Oh yeah, Berklee too. That was the primary candidate until I decided
> to aim higher. They don't have anything relating to electroacoustics
> it seems and I get the feeling that it's not a very
> intellegent/academic atmosphere... more for preparing you for a
> multimedia job. Maybe I'm wrong.
> On 9/30/05, Michael Gogins <> wrote:
> > You should probably get a degree in composition at a school where computer music is valued, such as Columbia, Princeton, Stanford, NYU, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (sure about those, no doubt there are others).
> >
> > Some schools teach 'music technology' which has little to do with what I call computer music, though that is not always true (NYU has computer music in its MT program, as well as in the composition degree in the music school). I get the vague feeling that MT programs try to split the difference between educating producers (a sort of composer) and educating recording engineers. Usually the MT program offers a master's degree (graduate education for professional practice) and the music program offers a master's (graduate educaton for artistic practice) and a docorate (graduate education for teaching and research).
> >
> > Berklee might work for you.
> >
> > Prove to the admissions officers that you will make the cut by sending them pieces and software that make the cut. Good references will help.
> >
> > What's so scary about theory? Sometimes these fears tell us something, and we should do what we are afraid of -- sometimes not! We recognize that traditional music theory, as well as contemporary often mathematical music theory, has little to say to some composers these days, but to other composers it may be vital. In any case a theory course may come with ear training, analysis, and music history which are invaluable. I myself find contemporary theory fascinating because I am interested in algorithmic composition.
> >
> > If in fact you do not make the cut but still want to make music, move to a region where these good schools exist, get a day job, and just make music and hang out with people. If you do good work you'll find a place and be respected even if you don't go the academic route.
> >
> > In any event shoot for the top first, because if you do make the cut they will help you out with money if you need it.
> >
> > It might be a good idea to bum around and visit campuses and talk people up, listen to their music.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morgan Sutherland <>
> > Sent: Sep 30, 2005 3:45 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Let's Talk About College
> >
> > It's a little early, but soon it's going to be time for me to start
> > looking at colleges. Here's what I want in a college:
> >
> > I live in Massachusetts. This means that anywhere not in New England
> > is a plane ride away pretty much. This adds a few thousand dollars to
> > the tuition price. I'm not rich. Let's essentially disregard this for
> > the moment however. California for all extensive purposes is not going
> > to be out of the question. The U.K. however, is.
> >
> > Fields of study. The short unspecific answer: Computer music.
> > I'm not sure exactly what field of study I want to enter, but I know
> > what I don't want.
> > I don't want to be a music major. Music theory isn't a passion for me.
> > I'm afraid of it.
> > I get the feeling that doing something along the lines of
> > Computer-science major/Music minor or vice versa wouldn't be what I'm
> > into. I'd be into the combination of it.
> > What does an electroacoustics major entail? Is that essentially a
> > "computer music" degree?
> > Clarifcation in this area would be appreciated.
> >
> > What I want to do:
> > Make music throughout my whole life. Hopefully make money from it.
> > Design software/hardware for the creation of music. I'm very
> > interested in interfaces. My mind could change of course completely,
> > but this is where I want to aim. That general area.
> >
> > Combining computer science and music, but not as mutually exclusive
> > entities, that's where I want to go.
> >
> > My grades are good. B+/A-. My GPA is currently a 3.65. It should go up
> > to a 3.7 this year. I've been getting better grades than in the past.
> > My PSAT scores have been good (haven't taken SATs yet). They've been
> > very good: A's.
> > My grades have fluctuated a lot however. There are a few C's and an F in there.
> >
> > I would like to go somewhere with research opportunities. Because of
> > this, many of the top universities are interesting, but I'm not sure
> > I'll make the cut.
> >
> > What I've been interested in so far:
> >
> > Concordia in Montreal
> > Art Institute of Chicago
> >
> > MIT (Mass Institute of Technology)
> > Columbia University in New York
> > Stanford University
> > CalArts (CREATE program)
> > University of Washington (DX Arts)
> > University of Santa Barbara (Create with Curtis Roads)
> >
> >
> > Add to my list!
> >
> > I'd also looove to attend MIT (Media Lab) or Dartmouth
> > (electroacoustics) for their graduate programs.
> >
> > Recommendations? Comments? Questions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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