Re: Computer chicken


Subject: Re: Computer chicken
From: Michael Gogins (gogins@pipeline.com)
Date: Thu Sep 29 2005 - 00:34:08 EDT


Nobody can prove the four-color theorem without a computer, but it can be
proved with a computer.

Nobody can make computer music without a computer, but it can be made with a
computer.

Not all music made with computers is computer music, just as not all
theorems proved by computers can be proved ONLY with computers. But, there
IS music that can ONLY be made with computers, just as the four-color
theorem can be proved ONLY with a computer.

This is computer music proper.

It involves operations that are too complex, too tedious, or too
non-intuitive for an unassisted human being to make -- and that cannot be
made with other instruments -- just as there are licks that are too complex,
too tedious, or out of range for the human voice to make, and that require a
fiddle, piano, or guitar to play.

Regards,
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Austin" <kevin.austin@videotron.ca>
To: <cec-conference@concordia.ca>
Cc: <supper@udk-berlin.de>; <waburt@melbourne.dialix.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:37 PM
Subject: Computer chicken

> This appeared on the ACMA list.
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> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:00:05 +1000
> From: Warren Burt <waburt@melbourne.dialix.com.au>
> Subject: [Acma-l] Computer chicken
>
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> >From Martin Supper, who is organizing a round table at the SMC05
> (Sound and Music Computing) Conference in Salerno in November: "An
> observation: if you grill a chicken in a modern, computer-controlled
> electric oven, the result will be neither more nor less than grilled
> chicken. It is not computer chicken. Applying this observation to music
> demands that one ask the question, what makes computer music computer
> music?" If you have some answers, please respond to Martin Supper
> <supper@udk-berlin.de>
>
> I hope people on this list can send Martin some interesting replies.
> (Reply to Martin, not to this list).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Warren
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> I would like to see the discussion take place on cec-conference. It might
> be a little wi(l)der given the number of vegetarianisms here!
>
>
> Best
>
> Kevin
>



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