Re: ality Structuring


Subject: Re: ality Structuring
From: miriam clinton (iriXx) (iriXx@iriXx.org)
Date: Tue Sep 20 2005 - 23:44:47 EDT


i'm glad you bring the mind into it Kevin - for there lies the crux of
the matter.

it is all very well to talk about exciting new tools... i for one would
be interested to explore them, as the focus of my own work is on
psychoacoustics.

but what about the MUSIC?

are we not forgetting creativity in our arguments over Reaktor vs Csound
vs the neighbour next door's cat?

what matters, ultimately, to me, is the e/a, the creativity, the
music... who gives a dang if it comes from the meow of my neighbours (or
my own) kitty? or from an algorithm or from a Max patch or from a piece
of granular synthesis via Ceres3 or a loop in Ableton Live? who gives a
damn which one is more 'prestigious'... personally i think the kitty is
more musical....

let our ears be the creators and the judge. tools are just that.... tools.

mC~

Kevin Austin wrote:

> We don't seem to know very much about how the mind structures reality.
>
> This is not an issue if one believes that reality exists independently
> of the mind.
>
> Choose your hemlock.
>
>
> Best
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> At 23:11 -0400 2005/09/15, Morgan Sutherland wrote:
>
>> How so? In the realm of synthesis and processing? Or psychoacoustics?
>> Do we need more synthesis techniques, more deeply modeled ones? Detail
>> or new ideas?
>>
>> On 9/15/05, Michael Gogins <gogins@pipeline.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We KNOW that we can get computers to make all those cool soundes
>>> Shane Turner describes -- it's a conseqauence of the Church-Turing
>>> thesis and the finite bandwidth and resolution of the ear.
>>>
>>> Only we don't know how to program the computer to make them -- yet.
>>>
>>> Learning this stuff is really where it's at with computer music.
>>>
>>> That, and understanding how to get the computer to work directly
>>> with musical semantics, compositional structures, as we are just
>>> beginning to do with sounds.
>>>
>>> We won't use the computer to its potential until we know a LOT more
>>> about music and music theory -- a lot lot more.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>
>> > Mike
>>
>>>
>
>

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