Re: Le mat?riau Sonore, hidden place


Subject: Re: Le mat?riau Sonore, hidden place
From: Morgan Sutherland (skiptracer@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Sep 14 2005 - 23:39:58 EDT


mmm... some programs have more capabilities, more variables. For
instance Reaktor doesn't do spectral stuff while i'm presuming CSound
can... this means that Reaktor is limited in comparison.

On 9/14/05, miriam clinton (iriXx) <iriXx@irixx.org> wrote:
> as ever, its the person behind the toon - or the person behind the
> program in this case - that makes the difference.
>
> i believe the quality of work produced has little to do with the program
> involved, and that a lot of prejudice is held in academia towards
> non-academic, underground dance oriented programs such as Reaktor. I
> have used similiar programs - in particular Absynth - with excellent
> results. I've listened to the most original mixes created using only
> Fruity Loops - a program that is frowned upon even in the dance world.
>
> Csound is more powerful.... I've never heard such rubbish. The power is
> in the creator, not the program.
>
> Richard Wentk wrote:
>
> > At 17:05 14/09/2005, you wrote:
> >
> >> Why would someone use Reaktor rather than Max/MSP, PD, SuperCollider,
> >> or Csound? I played with Reaktor 4 and although it was a lot of fun,
> >> PD and Csound are a lot more powerful and free besides.
> >
> >
> > "Csound is more powerful" is just mythology.
> >
> > The only things you can do in Csound that you can't do in Reaktor is
> > script individual events, do spectral processing and (sort of) work
> > microtonally. Otherwise, virtually any synthesis technique you can
> > think of can be realised far more quickly in Reaktor than in Csound.
> > And the general level of creativity and imagination wrt synthesis and
> > sound design I've seen from the Reakor community has been light years
> > ahead of the Csound community, many of whom seem to believe that
> > producing a DX7 clone, a bingly-bongly reverb or an extremely poor
> > analogue imitation is a major achievement.
> >
> > As for price - how much is your time worth? If it takes a week to make
> > something happen in Csound and a day to make it happen in Reaktor,
> > which is cheaper?
> >
> > Max/MSP is the natural step up from Reaktor, and SuperCollider is a
> > good alternative for those who like coding. Compared to these
> > alternatives
> > PD is a toy, and Csound is a once-interesting but now antiquated and
> > increasingly irrelevant museum piece. (Although it is a good
> > Sourceforge playpen for those who like footling around with compilers
> > and code.)
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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