Re: Re : (junk yard dog in) hidden place

Subject: Re: Re : (junk yard dog in) hidden place
From: lawrence casserley (
Date: Wed Sep 14 2005 - 15:53:52 EDT

On 14 Sep, 2005, at 18:59, Michael Gogins wrote:

> With respect to music history and innovation, there are (at least,
> broadly speaking) two situations. Western art music has a particular
> kind of historical consciousness that glorifies innovation. In the
> music of other cultures (not that I'm an expert), there are different
> kinds of historical consciousness. I know enough about some
> non-Western-art-music styles to know that musical innovation occurs in
> them and is important, since there is an obvious sequence of styles
> from generation to generation, and obvious cross-cultural influences,
> even predating Western influences. But it's not quite the same thing,
> the same feeling of being driven by or out of history, not the same
> insistence on innovation.
Could this be put another way? In some of these cultures at least there
is more emphasis on being part of a tradition - each artist interprets
the tradition in her/is own way, so a constant evolution occurs, but
the respect for the tradition always remains.

OTOH, in Western culture, at least since about the 18th century,
iconoclasm has been the driving force - history is bunk! This seems to
coincide with the development of science - the idea of continuous
advancement of knowledge as the driving force of our culture.

In this model there is no stability - this week's theorem will be
disproved next week - only innovation has meaning.

Just a thought.


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