Re: Le mat�riau Sonore, hidden place


Subject: Re: Le mat�riau Sonore, hidden place
From: Michael Gogins (gogins@pipeline.com)
Date: Wed Sep 14 2005 - 14:16:28 EDT


The only things....? Doesn't that cover rather a lot of ground?

I've used Reaktor, Max, PD, and Csound, and frankly I find Csound faster and easier to use than the others; and I prefer the sounds I can get too. I think to some extent the decision hinges on one's typing speed and preference for verbal or visual patterns.

I have indeed seen very good sounds and creative patches from Reaktor uses, though. I would say it has a more vital and productive community.

Regards,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wentk <richard@skydancer.com>
Sent: Sep 14, 2005 1:27 PM
To: cec-conference@concordia.ca
Subject: Re: Le mat�riau Sonore, hidden place

At 17:05 14/09/2005, you wrote:
>Why would someone use Reaktor rather than Max/MSP, PD, SuperCollider, or
>Csound? I played with Reaktor 4 and although it was a lot of fun, PD and
>Csound are a lot more powerful and free besides.

"Csound is more powerful" is just mythology.

The only things you can do in Csound that you can't do in Reaktor is script
individual events, do spectral processing and (sort of) work microtonally.
Otherwise, virtually any synthesis technique you can think of can be
realised far more quickly in Reaktor than in Csound. And the general level
of creativity and imagination wrt synthesis and sound design I've seen from
the Reakor community has been light years ahead of the Csound community,
many of whom seem to believe that producing a DX7 clone, a bingly-bongly
reverb or an extremely poor analogue imitation is a major achievement.

As for price - how much is your time worth? If it takes a week to make
something happen in Csound and a day to make it happen in Reaktor, which is
cheaper?

Max/MSP is the natural step up from Reaktor, and SuperCollider is a good
alternative for those who like coding. Compared to these alternatives
PD is a toy, and Csound is a once-interesting but now antiquated and
increasingly irrelevant museum piece. (Although it is a good Sourceforge
playpen for those who like footling around with compilers and code.)

Richard



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