Re: Le matériau Sonore, hidden place

Subject: Re: Le matériau Sonore, hidden place
From: Richard Wentk (
Date: Tue Sep 13 2005 - 06:47:53 EDT

At 12:21 13/09/2005, you wrote:

>BUT this isn't a good enough reason to NOT use ear-seducing, good sounding
>material in ones compositions. If the context is correct, the cliché (if
>'nice' sounds are going to be catalogued as this) should be understood.

Ear-seducing etc is not identical to cliche. Cliche (in this context) means
sound-du-jour that everyone else is using because they have the same tools
and can't be bothered to work past the presets. MetaSynth and GRM tools
appear to have been on the wrong side of this for quite a while now.
Reaktor seems to be catching up fast.

Ear-seducing means something rather different, perhaps.

It would be an interesting exercise to work exclusively with cliched
standard sounds and see to what extent it's possible to create something
worthwhile. But I think the problem comes from cliches being used as a
substitute for creativity rather than a starting point for it.

>The fact that it often isn't is purely the fault of the listener who is
>(perhaps - and amongst other things) fx-spotting instead of listening to a
>different stream of data.

This assumes there's a different stream of data to listen to. :-)


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