Re: Science, Knowledge, Understanding, Art and Wonder and Identity


Subject: Re: Science, Knowledge, Understanding, Art and Wonder and Identity
From: Kenneth Newby (knewby@sfu.ca)
Date: Sun Sep 11 2005 - 13:16:25 EDT


“Could I ask you to explain the music of heaven for me?”

“Sounding the ten thousand processes and events differently, so each
becomes itself according to itself alone—who could make such music?”

— Chuang Tzu

On 11-Sep-05, at 9:06 AM, Aki Pasoulas wrote:

> --- Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Does a "pattern" exist as an object?
>> Does an "outline" exist as an object?
>> Does a "relationship" exist as an object?
>> Does "repetition" exist as an object?
>>
>> Do these things require the creation of "identity"
>> (segmentation of the information stream)?
>>
>> Is information quantized and then processed? (Take for example
>> a soundwave.)
>> ...
>
>
> Relationships and processes occur through time; they need time
> to be realised, in contrast with objects which exist outside
> time (or, their changes are so slow that time becomes irrelevant
> - sound object excluded, as it belongs to a temporal region).
> Parameters are different for those two areas (‘inside’/‘outside’
> time). Patterns, outlines, relationships and repetitions cannot
> be perceived as, or exist as objects because they occupy a
> different domain.
>
> As for whether information should be quantised to be processed,
> I believe that it depends on the processing you intend to do.
> Sound can be perceived both as waves and as particles, and both
> in a macro and a micro form, depending on the scale of
> measurement and the type of operations we apply to it.
>
> Best,
>
> Aki
>
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