Re: Science, Knowledge, Understanding, Art and Wonder and Identity


Subject: Re: Science, Knowledge, Understanding, Art and Wonder and Identity
From: Aki Pasoulas (pasoulas@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Sun Sep 11 2005 - 12:06:22 EDT


--- Kevin Austin <kevin.austin@videotron.ca> wrote:

> ...
> Does a "pattern" exist as an object?
> Does an "outline" exist as an object?
> Does a "relationship" exist as an object?
> Does "repetition" exist as an object?
>
> Do these things require the creation of "identity"
> (segmentation of the information stream)?
>
> Is information quantized and then processed? (Take for example
> a soundwave.)
> ...

Relationships and processes occur through time; they need time
to be realised, in contrast with objects which exist outside
time (or, their changes are so slow that time becomes irrelevant
- sound object excluded, as it belongs to a temporal region).
Parameters are different for those two areas (‘inside’/‘outside’
time). Patterns, outlines, relationships and repetitions cannot
be perceived as, or exist as objects because they occupy a
different domain.

As for whether information should be quantised to be processed,
I believe that it depends on the processing you intend to do.
Sound can be perceived both as waves and as particles, and both
in a macro and a micro form, depending on the scale of
measurement and the type of operations we apply to it.

Best,

Aki

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