Re: (More) Cool sounds from outer space!

Subject: Re: (More) Cool sounds from outer space!
From: Jan L. (
Date: Mon Aug 01 2005 - 00:45:15 EDT

If words mean something it makes discussion easier. Otherwise we can
go back to grunting (which would be an interesting exercise ;=))

Much as I dearly love the soundscape in the woods here - it is really
wunderschoen but it is not art.

On the other hand I have heard much EA that I think is pure bullshit.
But I would call it art. Bad art in my opinion.

Here is what wikipedia says:
Characteristics of art

- Requires creative perception both by the artist and by the audience
- Elusive
- Communicates on many levels and is open to many interpretations
- Connotes a sense of ability
- Interplay between the conscious and unconscious part of our being,
between what is real and what is an illusion
- Any human creation which contains an idea other than its
utilitarian purpose.
- That which is created with intention to be experienced as art

/Jan L.

1 aug 2005 kl. 05.32 skrev Jean-Marc Pelletier:

> Just in case, some found my original answer to
> a bit short:
> Last week, we had an ea concert at our school. About half-way
> through I got up and left. I even left in the middle of a piece,
> which I reckon was rude, but I really didn't feel like staying any
> longer. I went outside and laid in the grass, watching the stars
> and listening to the chorus of cicadas, crickets and frogs,
> accompanied by the wind brushing the nearby trees. I couldn't help
> feeling that all of this was infinitely more beautiful and
> interesting than anything I'd heard or seen in the half concert I
> attended. This isn't a statement about art. It's not a statement
> about music, not even about that particular concert, just my
> current state of mind. I haven't bought all that many CDs recently,
> and haven't really listened to those I did buy. Instead my
> fascination for the order of the world around me has grown.
> I linked to the first sample, the one from Saturn, because of its
> uncanny resemblance to 1960s SF soundtracks inspired by the Barons'
> work. My use of the adjective "cool" was strictly tongue in cheek.
> I was trying to capture a little of that 1960s camp in my choice of
> words. I might have failed.
> The VLT recordings are somewhat different. As some people very
> thankfully noticed, VLT transmissions just happen, by chance, to
> fall right smack in the human frequency hearing range. Not only
> that, the time-scale of the various events is such that there is no
> need for any time compression. The setup needed to make these
> emissions audible is simply radio receiver -> amp -> speaker. This
> makes it an electroacoustic phenomenon. As in electrons to sounds.
> This is the list of the Canadian *electroacoustic* community and I
> thought this would be more than relevant.
> Just to re-iteratate: VLT recordings are 1 to 1 mappings of electro-
> magnetic disturbances associated with auroras. They are not
> "illustrations" but simple transduction. Unless you are
> unbelievably pendant, they *are* caused by auroras (in some cases
> at least).
> I find the question of what is "art" or "music" spectacularly
> boring. "Gesang der Junglinge", "Vingt regards sur l'enfant JÚsus",
> last week's cicada chorus and VLT emission recordings are all sonic
> structures. As perceptible material, they all have value, be it
> semantic or morphological. "Dawn chorus"-type of VLT are so-called
> because they sound like the chorus of birds in the morning. They
> are "beautiful" in part because they function in a programmatic
> fashion, appealing to the listener's imagination. This
> morphological proximity between "dawn chorus" VLT and birdsong
> causes a number of semantic associations in the listener's mind.
> Entire imaginary landscapes and sceneries arise before the mind's eye.
> In the end, it's all energy. The Pathetic Sonata, "Chiaroscuro",
> VLT, me, you, this e-mail message. However, as I sentient being, I
> choose to try to find beauty wherever I turn my ear or eye.
> Jean-Marc

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