Re: (More) Cool sounds from outer space!


Subject: Re: (More) Cool sounds from outer space!
From: Shane Turner (shane.turner@sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun Jul 31 2005 - 22:56:45 EDT


Hm. All I see is you imposing your lofty standards of aesthetics on others.
This conversation is over.

--shane turner

----- Original Message -----
From: <electroacoustics@canada.com>
To: <cec-conference@concordia.ca>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: (More) Cool sounds from outer space!

> There has always been a difference in the visual arts
> between illustration and art. What art is is an
> intangible, but illustration is obvious. I see these
> recordings as being illustration, and the hype is that
> they 'come from Saturn'. What you are bringing up now
> is more confusion to the issue.
>
> If you find these illustrations beautiful, then that is
> totally up to you, but to me this is an abuse of the
> language. How would you describe something even more
> beautiful? You are at the end of the line in one
> sentence and to go beyond requires something infantile,
> like saying, beautiful beautiful. I don’t know what
> this type of 'jumping to the extreme end of
> possibilities' behavior is called, but premature
> ejaculation comes to mind.
>
> I initially asked the originators of this thread to
> explain why they thought the recordings 'cool', and the
> answers that came back were because they were
> 'beautiful'. I thought I was asking a simple question,
> but what I got seemed to be insults and the emperors
> new clothes.
>
> T
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 06:46:18 -0400, "Shane Turner"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> In that case x-ray photography and stellar photography
>> is a "sham" also,
>> after all, the images are taken outside of the visible
>> light spectrum, and
>> converted down to visible wavelengths. Better not look
>> at those x-rays, I'll
>> be "duped!" I wonder if I thought an image of the
>> horsehead nebula or the
>> pillars of creation was beautiful, would I be guilty
> of
>> "duping" others by
>> somebody's standards?
>>
>> Come to think of it, I'd better not listen to a
>> thunderstorm either. After
>> all, all that random, naturally-occuring expansion of
>> air waves can hardly
>> be listenable or beautiful.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <electroacoustics@canada.com>
>> To: <cec-conference@concordia.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: (More) Cool sounds from outer space!
>>
>>
>> > Yes right. 'Hear' is the important word. No one is
>> > hearing anything of whatever the original data might
>> > have been before it got converted, so stop it with
> the
>> > 'its from Saturn' crap. Its from a lab on earth, and
>> > its a sham, and a bad one at that, and the 'cool'
> and
>> > 'beautiful' people who apparently have only three
>> > adjectives in their vocabulary (between them) are
>> > duping others into thinking this space junk is
>> actually
>> > worth a listen. Its data. Garbled, distorted, data.
> If
>> > you think its worth something, then try
> contemplating
>> a
>> > glass of water until the bio-matter inside makes it
>> > undrinkable.
>> >
>> > R. Mutt
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 02:36:34 +1000, "miriam clinton
>> > (iriXx)" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> whats more - what could be cooler than being able
> to
>> >> /hear/ something
>> >> that is intangible as well as being from the visual
>> >> spectrum?
>> >>
>> >> Jean-Marc Pelletier wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > They're beautiful, surprising sounds created by
>> >> auroras that are more
>> >> > interesting by themselves than most ea out there.
>> > How
>> >> can this _not_
>> >> > be cool.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jean-Marc
>> >> >
>> >> > electroacoustics@canada.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Would you care to explain why you think this is
> so
>> >> >> cool? I must be missing something.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> TC
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:34:20 +0900, Jean-Marc
>> >> Pelletier
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> This was also referenced on /.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> > http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/sounds/sounds.html
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Very, very cool.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> 99% of aliens prefer Earth
>> >> --Eminem
>> >>
>> >> www.iriXx.org
>> >> www.copyleftmedia.org.uk
>> >
>>
>



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