Re: Hearing Loss sites etc ... ah ... and here's the rub ...


Subject: Re: Hearing Loss sites etc ... ah ... and here's the rub ...
From: James Phelps (jimphelps_niucms@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri May 20 2005 - 10:51:12 EDT


Amen ... whilst I add a "smirk" re: the notion that these musics are "cutting edge" ... perhaps so if this were 1950 ...
 
-Jim Phelps
 Northern Illinois University
 

Antti Sakari Saario <a.saario@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
Dear all,

As being a person with a tinnitus I beg to differ with the below view
of always yielding to the wishes of the 'great artist'. IMHO most of
the currently very celebrated sound artists/ea composers/noise
artists/electronica wizards/etc. have a severe lack of respect to their
audience and fellow artists and even more so a lack of UNDERSTANDING of
the properties of sound and its potential power to cause permanent ear
damage (and even less do they understand the healing properties of
sound). In short poor ego (=big ego) and big sound system usually means
trouble as far as I am concerned and hence more often than not I rather
live in the dark-ages and miss the latest hip-sound-show as these are
often run by audio-bullies and the sheep like crowd of 'educated
consumers' (yes I do like WIRE magazine too but you are allowed to
listen for your self) stands there in awe when the latest 'star' is
ripping their eardrums out with sinetones and what have you. AS pointed
out by Louis is does boil down to trust. It is like eating puffer fish
prepared by a trainee-chef or giving guns to kids, be my guest. My
euros worth.

Thanks 4 listening.

Antti Sakari Saario

On 20 May 2005, at 05:20, Louis Dufort wrote:

>
>>
>> Where is the sense of responsibility of the organizers and the
>> artists towards others?
>>
> As I said Kevin we can strongly suggest the artist to bring it down
> but we
> will never go against the artist demand. At ELEKTRA, where the sound
> system
> is pristine (L_Acoustics sound system) and controlled by professional,
> we
> take our responsibilities in offering a top of the line sound
> experience.
> In the last few years we managed to controlled the sound pressure to a
> very
> reasonable level.
>
> Now, as we do present cutting edge artist, where some of them are
> composing
> with noise and very harsh material it's our responsibility to present
> their
> music the way it's intended to be, which is loud. This may be a
> problem for
> some listeners but truly, with the quality of our sound system we do
> now
> accommodate those artists and we do keep a very decent overall sound
> pressure.
>
> Sometimes music can be loud and still be a very exciting experience
> for the
> ear if it's in a controlled environment and considering that the
> loudest
> peaks are very short. In fact, many EA composer knows very well those
> limits and use them with cleverness, can we trust them?
>
> To be able to feel a PPPP to a FFFF is what ELEKTRA responsibility is
> all
> about.
>
> Louis
> http://louisdufort.com/
>
>
>
>
Dr Antti Sakari Saario
Lecturer and Director of Studies in Music Technology
Lancaster University
LA1 4YW
UK
Tel: +44(0)1524594496
Fax: +44(0)1524 593939

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