Re: Hearing Loss sites etc

Subject: Re: Hearing Loss sites etc
From: Shane Turner (
Date: Thu May 19 2005 - 16:13:13 EDT

earplugs AND earmuffs!

seriously though, another problem too (especially at electronica/dance
concerts) is that at many venues people aren't really there for the music..
they just don't shut UP during the concerts.. so the music goes up.. people
talk louder, the music gets louder, etc. combine that with a small room
with a p.a. designed for a much bigger space.. and you have a real problem.

Another problem is general ignorance of the issue. When talking to one
person about the subject I was told that "headphones are worse," as if the
person didn't realize that its the SPL at the ear that makes the difference,
not headphones or loudspeakers.

The problem would be so easily solved.. just use a nice limiter going into
the amp to make sure that the volume levels can't get higher than say, 95dB.

I used to work in a pulp mill. The rules for ear protection were strictly
followed.. 8 hours at 85 db max, 1 hour at 95dB max, according to the
Alberta labor code. Its ironic that people who make a living using their
ears don't show the same respect for their hearing, and the hearing of


----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Eustace" <>
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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Hearing Loss sites etc

> There are electroacoustic concerts taking placing in Montreal (and all
> over,
> I'm sure) that are utterly negligent in terms of the risks to the
> audience's
> hearing. I know I can't go to shows anymore - because in my experience
> there's
> a much better chance that I'm going to be exposed to such negligence when
> amplifiers are involved. Even musician's ear plugs are not enough - when
> being
> exposed to 100-120 db for 3 hours. Frankly, it feels like my refusal to
> endanger my hearing is going to make having a career in music all the more
> difficult.
> Forgive my ignorance, but what is the electroacoustic community doing to
> react
> against this? What do the acoustic ecologists say? Are there venues that
> cater
> to the safety conscious? What does Canadian law say about noise levels in
> concert situations? What can the young electroacoustians (like me) do to
> support the cause?
> I'm a little disheartened by it all and I would appreciate your thoughts.
> Quoting Kevin Austin <>:
>> A general introduction to (mostly noise induced) hearing loss:
>> >The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)
>> >has released a useful software package for demonstrating the
>> >effects of noise-induced hearing loss. The NIOSH Hearing Loss
>> >Simulator runs on a Windows-based PC with sound capabilities, and
>> >allows the user to select different durations and levels of noise
>> >exposure while "hearing" the effects on a variety of foreground and
>> >background sounds.
>> Best
>> Kevin
> --

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