Re: future of music essays


Subject: Re: future of music essays
From: njcross (njcross@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Mon Apr 18 2005 - 19:01:22 EDT


On Sunday 17 April 2005 09:33 pm, Eliot Handelman wrote:

> Actually, I disagree -- the whole feel of that passage is 1987. It's
> about trying to participate in the existing world by pretending to be
> a high minded moral watchdog. Progress is inexorable anyway (unforseen
> breakthroughs will occur), leaving culture types to
> comment not so as to help things develop, but rather, astride a fully
> achieved technical success, preaching about how
> this thing not is going in the right direction. The "we" in the quote
> below is presumably not someone dedicating himself to the
> subject in the sense that, for instance, he grinds code, or actually
> studies music
First define your idea of 'progress'. In this context
'inexorable' smacks of a helplessness handed down from goodness-knows-where.
Things just happen-It just went off in my hand-there's nothing we can do
about it. Your remarks just echo that helplessness. Stop name calling ie
'culture types'. It's puerile. It's not an either/or choice, it's 'us'. One
persons progress is anothers exploitation. Barrière,if not a coder (although
I always thought he was), has worked alongside them for many years at IRCAM.
 Barrière a'culture type'? As opposed to the coders who do the real work,I
suppose. We need not discuss the variable merits of coders,do we?
Certainly they can be led by the nose just like anyone else.
I'm sure there are exceptions on this list but I briefly knew a coder at
IRCAM, chiefly responsible for their most successful piece of software to
date(note -only in terms of sales). He scared me stupid. He said yes to
everyone and hardly had an original thought in his head -malleable was not
the word. He was American,not French.
I take it you don't code yourself?

>The "we" in the quote
> below is presumably not someone dedicating himself to the
> subject in the sense that, for instance, he grinds code, or actually
> studies music
Why the presumption? "Not actually studies music'? Had you heard of Barrière
before reading this essay? I suppose I must assume you had.

> French philosophers often rely upon a sort of self-important enthusiasm
> to express the passion they feel about not having
> any useful ideas.

Useful in terms of what? Ahh! the progress word again. Whose fecking progress,
eh? Actually it sounds more like a kneejerk reaction against the French than
anything else.

Oh,by the way,has anyone noticed that Barrière assumes that all creators
are male? Hopefully it was just a typo,and Kaija Sarriaho gave him hell.



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