re: sculpture & butterflies

Subject: re: sculpture & butterflies
From: macCormac (
Date: Sat Feb 26 2005 - 07:00:29 EST

dear Buddha

beautiful picture
how did you get th light
to go through your mind ?

are you in a parade ?

did you ever read Yeats'
'Certain Noble Plays'
simple sets upon a stage ?

best regards, macCormac / sylvi
http// / na / da / bc

Kevin Austin wrote:

     At 7:13 PM +0000 2/24/05, Rick wrote:

>> tempo, meter, underlying structural grid

         what about meter-less grids? say, a piece in one measure 500
         long? jess messin...

      The grid remains, but it is not hierarchical in its segmentation.
Quadruple time would have some form of emphasis every four "ticks"
(sic), and a standard polka would have
     emphasis every two ticks for the meter, and a higher level tick
every 8 for half phrases, and another level every 16 for the "8
bar"phrase structure.

         Something ealier was said about sculpture being time based. Was
         referring to something in particular? Not bas relief or marble
         or brass 3D? noyes? I don't get it.


       I followed up on this as much sculpture cannot be fully seen from
one position, and time (and memory) are required to be able to
"assemble" the (structure and) meaning of the
     object. This could also be understood in ways similar to a
multi-channel point-source speaker system where it is not possible to
hear 'everything' from any one position. An early
     example of this is John Cage and Lejaren Hiller's HPSCHD, or the
second movement of Ives' Fourth Symphony (although there is a piano
version of parts of this as 'The Celestial
     Railroad' (Naxos 8.559221). And the
Butterfly The 3D
brass faces are interesting in creating the illusion of dimension in
     very little space. Maybe someone here can direct me to a site where
I can get more information on a large 'face of the laughing Buddha' I
saw in Bar Harbor Maine, where the face
     while seeming to 'protrude' is in fact 'carved into' the bronze. (a
small photo of it is below). Amazingly, with this technique, the eyes
follow the viewer, and are always looking at
     you! I recently spoke with a friend who reported that their father
would have many radios scattered around the living room all tuned to the
same station, and the sound was
     somewhat surreal. This would be an acoustical illusion created by a
complex wavefront that the ear/brain would simply love to decode (loss
of stereo image aside). Best Kevin

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