Re: art not music

Subject: Re: art not music
Date: Thu Feb 24 2005 - 15:52:27 EST

> No, I think if the sound is organised - preferably audibly organised - then
> it counts as music.
> It may not be pop/rock/classical/ambient/pickalabel. But if you think about
> it these are all labels for different organisational practices. (As it
> were.) I don't think EA is radically different in that respect. It just
> organises sound using its own set of tools and criteria - as do all the
> others, in their own ways.

What tools and criteria... other than the user defined ones.

> >I don't want to imply that these courses have no use to me, nor do I want
> to
> >come across as though my expectations for the classes are thhe only ones
> that
> >count. It is just in my mind the study of music (dot, or otherwise
> >traditional) leaves gaps in the education of one intersted in
> >electroacoustics
> For sure. But they'll also leave gaps in the education of someone
> interested in creating hiphop or rap. And many other styles too.

The problem is that I see less of a gap in my current program for someone
interested in creating hiphop or rap than for soemone interested in creating

> >If ea is classified as a subset of time based art instead of a subset of
> >music
> >would there be any difference in it.... probably not, though it might be
> >taught differently (or from a different stand point).
> 'Time based art' just seems like a nonsensical (and pretentious) academic
> buzz word to me. I'm not sure it really means anything worthwhile, or
> offers genuinely useful insights into any of the forms it supposedly
> incorporates.

Music, on the other hand offers very useful insights into the forms that it
encompases, (IMV) the insights that are offered do not lead to ea. The term
music, must be qualified in someway, so that when speaking of ea by using the
word music one will understand what is acttually being discussed. This is
societal of course, one understands many things from words that aren't actually
intended based on personal ideas of the word.

> Genuinely time based art would use time as its medium. Since we don't have
> the technology to do that yet, it seems that exploring video, animation,
> dance, sound art and the rest on their own terms, and then adding a strong
> collaborative emphasis, is probably more useful than trying to consider
> 'time based art' as a separate and unique medium.
> Whether working with all these different media would benefit EA students -
> I'm a huge fan of crossfertilisation across media, so I think it would be
> much more of a good thing than a bad one.

Of course!


Andrew McCallum

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