Re: Solo ea and "tick"ing

Subject: Re: Solo ea and "tick"ing
From: Richard Wentk (
Date: Sat Feb 19 2005 - 14:33:50 EST

At 16:59 18/02/2005, you wrote:
>I don't know if we need to go to non-western cultures to find out what
>happens when 'unexposed' ears are exposed to new sounds. Western music
>history is full of examples of people "not getting" the 'new' music ...
>Beethoven late quartets and bagatelles, Mahler, Schoenberg, Cowell,
>Partch, Cage, Stockhausen ...

Many ears still don't get those sounds, so I'm not sure what the point is

I think we need reactions from non-Western cultures partly because it's
just plain interesting to find out what it is, and partly to see if there
is some commonality of attention, value and experience.

>If the "tickness" is largely learned then it may be found that cultural
>influences have a large role to play, which could be seen as younger minds
>being in general more flexible and adaptable to learning the languages

It's probably not novel at all to suggest it's a Chomskian kind of a thing
- the experience is a given, the exact musical grammar that creates it may
be socialised to an extent.

>I am not convinced about opinions where things are "clearly" and others
>are "impossible" ... but I may be an old fuddy-duddy about what is really
>real, having little faith in "common sense".

It's not common sense, it's empirical evidence. People buy certain kinds of
music by the container load because it does something for them. If it did
nothing for them, they wouldn't buy it.

That's where the 'clearly' comes from. If N Million people buy one CD and
ignore a different one, it's not very likely their reasons and motivations
are exclusively individual.


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