Re: robot com-posers

Subject: Re: robot com-posers
From: miriam clinton (iriXx) (
Date: Thu Feb 17 2005 - 22:31:10 EST

Ross Bencina wrote:

> Nick Wrote:
>> MY idea is to focus on a certain type of music, as one would focus on
>> one
>> language at a time when teaching a computer how to speak. Build a big
>> database
>> of rock and roll and teach the computer to recognise key percievable
>> elements
>> of that type of music. I'm not saying its going to be easy.
>> you would have to disect the songs to their elements. Teach it to
>> segregate the
>> drums from the guitar and so on, teach it to recognize modes
>> progressions.
>> rhythmic patterns, timbres... but on the other hand it would have to
>> recognise
>> the big picure: tempos, style, overall form,,,the list should be very
>> long.
>> Then the computer could design a piece using a huge matrix, each
>> value being
>> one of a million other values in its category but a problem emerges
>> here.
> This is already being done to a large degree. Music information
> retrieval systems can extract these kind of descriptors from sound
> files. People have used sequences of descriptors extracted from one
> piece of music to reassemble fragments of other pieces of music into
> new peices with the same descriptor sequence but different sound
> sources. It's called audio mosaicing and doesn't require an
> "linguistic" understanding of the materials...
> Ross.
to a certain extent it is also being explored in a very un-creative way
as well, in the world of Digital Rights Management (DRM) i.e. stopping
people using file-sharing to download mp3s. huge musical databases
trained to recognise patterns within a commercial piece of music, then
track the IP address of the user.

however, audio mosaicing sounds rather fun, in a John Oswald-ian kind of


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