Re: Solo ea

Subject: Re: Solo ea
From: Eliot Handelman (
Date: Wed Feb 16 2005 - 17:57:50 EST

Richard Wentk wrote:

> At 03:13 14/02/2005, you wrote:
>> The same stuff is going on in academe
> Indeed. But it just highlights the difference in mindset between the
> arts and engineering departments.

not necessarily -- we're seeing this kind of research in music depts as
well. I know a high-placed
music theorist who gave a spiel about the importance of categorization
(to what effect I forget) indicating
at least some minor intellectual osmosis. These things WILL influence
how music is thought about
and taught.

>> -- there's the princeton project (forget guy's name) to automatically
>> classify
>> music and find "similar" music, Dannenberg & Vercoe have also
>> autrhored classification papers and I'd judge it to
>> be the dominant idea about how music information retrieval ought to
>> work.
> But not music creation. (At least not yet.)

That can't be long off. It's not creative though -- that is, HSS can't
say "put a g-major chord there
and you got it made" though this too will happen.

>> That the project represents total music-intellectual bankruptcy goes
>> without saying.
> I don't know - isn't this what you want from a post-human world? It
> looks to me like something that's well on its way to becoming the
> perfect example of a post-human paradigm.

No, rthis is just crap AI. What I what is something that actually knows
about music, not a magic number
filter that explains nothing.

-- eliot

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