Subject: Fwd: AUDITORY Digest - Not heard the same way ... Tritone Paradox and first language
From: Kevin Austin (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Fri Dec 31 2004 - 00:36:34 EST
>Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:00:00 -0500
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>Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:37:52 +0000
>From: John ffitch <jpff@CS.BATH.AC.UK>
>Subject: Two questions I was asked
>I teach a course on DSP and music processing, in which I include a
>little psychoacoustics, mainly to suggest that things are not as
>simple as they might think, and to introduce a little on compression.
>This year I played a few examples from Diana Deutsch's CD, and read
>them some of the notes for components that need headphones, or would
>take too long.
>At the end of the lecture one of the students cam and asked a couple
>of questions, which surprised me as particular student has not said a
>word for 12 weeks.
>Anyway the two questions are:
>a) Related to the Tritone paradox, if the language of the listener
>affects the rising or falling interpretation, what happens to
>bi-lingual listeners, especially those who have been brought up as
>bi-lingual? Student in question is certainly of this kind. I assume
>the first language would dominate, but said I would ask.
>b) The second question related to the effect of handedness to the
>octave paradox. Handedness has been related to brain hemisphere
>dominance, and so has the gender differences. Is there any gender
>difference in this paradox?
>Apologies if these are not very clear; I am not a psychologist and
>this is way outside my main areas. But I did promise the student that
>I would ask.
>PS Student is female and Ukrainian I believe.
>Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:20:44 -0800
>From: Diana Deutsch <ddeutsch@UCSD.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Two questions I was asked
>Thanks for your note. About the tritone paradox, you might want to
>offload our recent article:
>Deutsch, D., Henthorn, T., & Dolson, M. Speech patterns heard early
>in life influence later perception of the tritone paradox. Music
>Perception, 2004, 21, 357 -372.
>which is posted as a PDF document under 'Publications' on my website
>We studied perception of the tritone paradox in two groups of
>subjects who had come to the U.S. from Vietnam. The first group had
>arrived as infants or children; they now spoke perfect English but
>were not fluent speakers of Vietnamese. The second group had arrived
>in the US as adults; they spoke primarily Vietnamese but were not
>fluent speakers of English. We also tested a control group of native
>speakers of English who were born and grown up in California, and
>whose parents were also native speakers of English who were born and
>grown up in California. The two Vietnamese groups were strikingly
>similar in the way they heard the tritone paradox, and the data from
>both Vietnamese groups differed significantly from the 'native
>English-speaking Californian' group. We conclude that perception of
>the tritone paradox is heavily influenced by speech patterns heard
>early in life.
>In this study we did not find evidence of secondary humps in the
>plots produced by bilingual speakers - such as one might reasonably
>expect to find, and I believe were found by Magdalene Chalikia in her
>studies of perception of the tritone paradox by bilingual subjects.
>It may well be that the relative influences of the first and second
>languages (or dialects - since this line of reasoning applies to
>dialects also) depends on the nature of the languages or dialects
>being studied - in addition to other factors.
>Concerning handedness and the octave illusion, you might want to
>offload the following two articles that are posted as PDFs on the
>same 'Publications' web page:
>Deutsch, D. An auditory illusion. Nature, 1974, 251, 307-309.
>Deutsch, D. The octave illusion in relation to handedness and
>familial handedness background. Neuropsychologia, 1983, 21, 289-293.
>Both these articles show strong handedness correlates with the octave
>illusion. I tested for gender differences, but didn't find any.
>Please let me know if you have any trouble offloading these articles,
>and I'll send you the PDFs directly.
>Regards, and Happy New Year!
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