Re: Vinyl quality vs. digital sound


Subject: Re: Vinyl quality vs. digital sound
From: Philippe-Aubert Gauthier (Philippe-Aubert.Gauthier@USherbrooke.ca)
Date: Thu Oct 21 2004 - 16:04:53 EDT


> I heard or saw something about people who believe vinyl sounds better than CD
> or DVD is because psychologically they think it sounds better; anything else
> would sound bad. So for them ,hearing a record is better and sounds better
> because thats what they believe (recordphiles). But I've heard that records
> do sound better than anthing else because of physical and scientific proof.

Similar thing is observed in room acoustics. Take a concert hall which is more
"plastic like" (from the visual point here!) or with cooler cooler (blue,
green). Take the comment of listener about the concert hall. Take the same
hall, put false wood finish over the surface : there is only a visual change.
Most of the description will describe the place like warmer than before. Just
because wood is associated with warmth ... even if nothing have changed
acoustically speaking.

> Is this true? (the fact that digital audio is divided into samples and then
> covnerted to analog suggests to me that a record would be a more
> faithfulreproduction? / what about tape ? ). So records pressed today (dj
> records, etc) are probably pressed from digital sources I assume; so a record
> today which sounds come from a digital source, would it sound better?
>
> *** just curious, sorry if this question sounds stupid and if I seem
> unkowledgeable ***
>
> Mauricio D. BAM.
> Acadia University Music Technology
> Computer Science Student
>
>
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>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-cec-conference@concordia.ca on behalf of Jason Smalridge
> Sent: Thu 10/21/2004 12:48 PM
> To: cec-conference@concordia.ca
> Subject: Re: Forward into the 19th Century
>
>
>
> I agree.
> I look around my room here and see a midi keyboard that plugs into my
> computer so that I can have access to "analog" synths. A digital
> camera that works with the same principles as my old analog one(except
> for an LCD screen of course). A guitar amp that is a reissue of a tube
> amp (When I bought it, they were emphasizing the fact that it actually
> had tubes in it. It was actually more expensive then the only
> transistor amps).
>
> I think that technology doesn't have to change to be better. Some past
> technologies were actually better then newer "advancements". Correct
> me if I am wrong but doesn't the vinyl records produce better sound
> quality then electric tapes and CD (when I say quality I mean frequency
> range).
> Either way, I know that my phone doesn't have a "normal" ring, only
> stupid songs, and I keep it on vibrate all the time. I think the
> novelty of technology tends to wear off fast and then we realize, "hey,
> what we had before was actually a lot better. Let's go back a step."
>
> Jay
> On 21-Oct-04, at 11:32 AM, chri_gal@alcor.concordia.ca wrote:
>
> > I've noticed three times in the past week now, phones (usually
> > expensive
> > flashy digital ones) which have a ring which mimics the old style
> > analog bell sound, except of course produced digitally, which makes it
> > sound
> > dull and processed. This morning I was talking to a receptionist here
> > at
> > Concordia and her phone rang with the analog style ring. After she
> > was off
> > i asked her about it, and she said it was one of the custom settings
> > she can
> > choose on the phone. I asked her if she liked it better, and she said
> > she
> > still hates the sound of phones ringing (as most receptionists
> > probably do),
> > but it was the best option available. I find it very interesting that
> > we've
> > gotten to the point where we use our new technology to re-create
> > out-dated
> > technology, and just as interesting that given the choice people seem
> > to
> > prefer sensations which connect back to the old technology. I thought
> > back
> > to the section in Shafer's "Tuning Of The World" where he foretold
> > that one
> > day people would be able to choose custom rings which could play songs
> > and
> > such, which has obviously come to pass. I wonder though if he ever
> > imagined
> > that we'd get to the point where given the choice people would simply
> > select
> > the type of ring which already existed then.
> >
> > Any thoughts or comments?
> >
> > and ever...
> >
> > - chris galanis
> >
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