Re: electroacoustics - rap to tap to zap to frap


Subject: Re: electroacoustics - rap to tap to zap to frap
torchia@buffalo.edu
Date: Thu Jul 22 2004 - 21:28:00 EDT


Quoting Richard Wentk <richard@skydancer.com>:

> At 20:02 22/07/2004 -0400, torchia@buffalo.edu wrote:
>
> >History happens, regardless of whether we have neat and tidy names
> to go
> >with all the amorphous and uncatagorizable events and ideas it
> >generated. Let's not delude future generations by pretending
> everything
> >fit into nice discrete cultural cubbyholes.
>
> But as far as most listeners and performers are concerned, a lot of
> music
> *does* fit into nice discrete cultural cubbyholes.

And a lot doesn't. And a lot fits mostly into one category with
characteristics of others. 'A lot' is a long, long way from 'all.' To
file Steve Reich in the same category as Glenn Branca is as much a
disservice to each composer as filing them in separate categories. It's
like saying Mississauga is just more Toronto--yeah, it is, but it
isn't...but it is, sorta.

I've never said that the categorizations aren't vaguely functional--in
fact, I think they work pretty well for what they are as they are. It's
just that they'll never fully define music for us; that level of
precision will always require communication rather than a couple simple
buzzwords. I think what puts me off is this idea that terms must be
artificially constructed and implimented just to make it possible to
described everything in catch phrases.

> Just try getting people to dance to drum 'n bass at a 'classical'
> concert,
> and see what happens.

That's hardly the same as saying that no crossover between drum 'n' bass
and classical exists. What *elements* of each style are you looking for
in the crossover? I'm hard-pressed to think of two reasonably
well-defined genres that haven't enjoyed/suffered some form of crossover
attempt (probably by Bill Laswell).

(BTW: People dance at Classical music concerts?)

> What interests me is that some of those people will dance to drum 'n
> bass -
> but only in a different context.

Is that really surprising? That people adjust their behavior based on
context? Is that even a musical issue? People don't play Scrabble at
NBA games either (well, maybe, I've never been to an LA Clippers game,
so I can't be 100% certain of this).

--Ryan



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