Re: electroacoustics - rap to tap

Subject: Re: electroacoustics - rap to tap
Date: Wed Jun 30 2004 - 17:15:35 EDT

Large stretches of Aparanthesi by John Oswald, a masterpiece of music,
contain no pitches (or only middle C), no harmonies, and no detectable

Similarly walking down the street in a city late Saturday night will
produce a stream of noise that contains pitches, harmonies, and detectable
rhythms but this is not music. Noise that contains snatches of music is not

But somebody might be able to take this noise and make music of it.

4'33" which is arguably music has no definite contents at all.

Original Message:
From: John Nowak
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:03:17 -0400
Subject: Re: electroacoustics - rap to tap

On Jun 30, 2004, at 1:15 PM, wrote:

> I doubt there is any mechanical procedure for examining a sound and
> deciding whether it is music or noise.

Sure there is. It is possible to detect pitches, check for harmonies,
do rhythm detection, etc.

> At the same time, I doubt that with
> the right training or attitude, any arbitrary specimen of sound can be
> heard as music

I disagree.

> context and expectation do enter into it.

Unfortunately people preconceptions often get the better of them. The
amount of rock fans for example that call rap music crap because it
doesn't meet their expectations is ridiculous. Neither is more
technically better or inherently aesthetically better than the other.
People like what they like... which is a shame.

> And you need a certain minimal taste and
> ability to even get started.

Depends on your method of composition and the type of music you are
producing. I'm not sure musical talent is needed to begin with, but a
creative mind is of course a necessity. If you're not interested in
being creative, you won't be.

- John

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