Re: on Brussels (an excerpt) ... (FYI) [buildings for sound]


Subject: Re: on Brussels (an excerpt) ... (FYI) [buildings for sound]
From: Katharine Norman (katharine@novamara.com)
Date: Mon Jun 07 2004 - 21:12:27 EDT


hi Jim - there's info at
www.novamara.com/book.html (it's all by me, but just one chapter on -
kinda, by way of other stuff - Xenakis and his pal Le C.)
or you can look it up at www.ashgate.com

your book sounds fascinating - let me know when it's out!

Katharine

On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 01:53 PM, Jim Harley wrote:

> Katharine,
> Can you provide details on this book you have contributed to? Sounds
> interesting.
> Some bit of my research on this ended up in my upcoming book, Xenakis:
> His Life in Music, although I ended up having to skip along pretty
> rapidly.
>
> http://search.tandf.co.uk/bookscatalogue.asp?URL=https://
> ecommerce.tandf.co.uk/catalogue/
> DirectLink.asp?ResourceCentre=SEARCH&ContinentSelected=0&CountrySelecte
> d=0&USSelected=0&ChangeCountry=0&search_text=0415971454&SearchGroup=ISB
> N&results_order=ByTitle&querytext=harley&database=Books
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Monday, June 7, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Katharine Norman wrote:
>
>> yes, the whole Le Corbuser / Xenakis interaction over the Pavilion is
>> fascinating -as you say, the letters Xenakis wrote at the time are
>> most revealing of his altercation with Le C over credits - as you
>> say, most unusual to credit an individual - although grudgingly
>> given. They actually commissioned Tomasi to write a son et lumiere
>> score because Varese was so behind with production, just think!
>> Xenakis reveals some interesting views (that change remarkable over
>> the years....) on Le Corbusier.
>>
>> I've read a lot of the correspondence you mention - I actually wrote
>> a book chapter recently entirely centred on a lot of the Xenakis/Le
>> C. thing, hence my interest. What's also interesting to me is the
>> role of Concret Ph in this - which to me is much more 'successful' in
>> being about the space and in the space than the rather ponderous
>> Varese Poeme.
>>
>> The contemporaneous brochues, like the one I mention, are fascinating
>> in themselves as design - some of the essays have to be read with
>> 'blurb-mode' on, especially some of the very differing facts and
>> figures regarding the gear, number of speakers etc.
>>
>> Katharine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 6, 2004, at 01:13 AM, Jim Harley wrote:
>>
>>> Katharine,
>>> Thanks for that pointer. Interesting presentation, even if not
>>> completely accurate (LeC never offered X money to keep his name off,
>>> for example--he actually gave him credit for his part, soon after
>>> the request, highly unusual for an architecture studio).
>>> Just think, instead of Varese's Poeme Electronique, we could have
>>> had something nice by Britten! The suits at Philips imagined a
>>> surround-sound sort of thing, with nice orchestral music sweeping
>>> through the pavilion.
>>> There is some fascinating correspondence on this struggle re:
>>> Varese. LeC made it a condition of his participation, repeatedly,
>>> that V be the composer, point final. Xenakis, too, did his share of
>>> defending Varese.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 6, 2004, at 01:39 AM, Katharine Norman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd second that -and, in case it's not too late on this
>>>> buildings/sound thread - here's a wonderful page by page scan of
>>>> the brochure (or one of them) brought out on the Pavilion at the
>>>> time. Can't remember where the person originally requesting this
>>>> info was, but in the UK they have another similar brochure in the
>>>> British Library, containing a long essay on the sound design etc by
>>>> one I. Xenakis.
>>>>
>>>> http://home.hccnet.nl/a.meyer/philipspavilion58/toc.html
>>>>
>>>> Katharine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 3, 2004, at 09:18 PM, Jim Harley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This book by Marc Treib (with an interesting analysis of the
>>>>> Varese piece by Richard Felciano) is extremely well researched and
>>>>> written. I can recommend it highly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Harley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, June 3, 2004, at 08:00 PM, Kevin Austin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For those interested in the Philips Pavilion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:26:19 +0200
>>>>>>> From: Richard Felciano <felciano@cnmat.berkeley.edu>
>>>>>>> Subject: architectural transitions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am a Professor of Music & composer at UC Berkeley, and founder
>>>>>>> of UC's Center for New Music and Audio Technologies.
>>>>>>> Architecture has been a very strong auxiliary interest (not
>>>>>>> really a secondary one) in my life and, with my architect
>>>>>>> colleague, Marc Treib, I team-taught in UCB's School of
>>>>>>> Architecture for several years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The result of that collaboration was writing of the musical
>>>>>>> portions of a large tome dealing with what is perhaps the first
>>>>>>> collaborative attempt between an architect and composer: the
>>>>>>> 1958 Philips Pavilion in Brussels. The book is titled Space
>>>>>>> Calculated in Seconds: The Philips Pavilion, Le Corbusier,
>>>>>>> Varèse, published by the Princeton University Press.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le Corbusier's name for the pavilion, for which he designed
>>>>>>> projections on purposely curved walls (before pre-stressed
>>>>>>> concrete!) was Le Poème Eléctronique, which remained as the name
>>>>>>> of Varèse' electronic score (which played over 40 carefully
>>>>>>> located speakers in the building's curved walls). It is the
>>>>>>> first major work of electronic music and remains a masterpiece
>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Richard Felciano
>>>>>>> Founder, Center for New Music & Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
>>>>>>> UC Berkeley
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:23:33 +1000
>>>>>>>> From: Derek Thompson
>>>>>>>> Subject: Compositions / Sound Designs and entranceways
>>>>>>>> Sender: owner-cec-conference@concordia.ca
>>>>>>>> To: acma-l@list.waikato.ac.nz, cec-conference@concordia.ca,
>>>>>>>> WFAE@sfu.edu.ca
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All, (with apologies for cross-postings)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As part of a Master's research, I'm looking for existing works
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> either historical or recent (current?) - that explicitly explore
>>>>>>>> architectural space, especially transitional space (i.e. foyers
>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>> stairwells / entranceways / atriums...).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm wanting to identify and document significant sound designs,
>>>>>>>> compositions or installations that have exploited, expressed, or
>>>>>>>> transformed space normally passed through with little regard
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>> acoustic or sonic properties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alongside this I am recording, documenting and analysing a
>>>>>>>> number of
>>>>>>>> public spaces with the aim to return to a select few with
>>>>>>>> spatially
>>>>>>>> diffuse sound designs that integrate (or intentionally
>>>>>>>> intervene)
>>>>>>>> with the visual and physical architecural environment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts - or suggestions of works - welcome!
>>>>>>>> Please feel free to mail me off-list if you wish, and I will
>>>>>>>> collate
>>>>>>>> responses for a single posting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Derek
>>>>>>>> SIAL Sound Studios
>>>>>> www.sial.rmit.edu.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ***************************************************
>>>>> James Harley, Assistant Professor
>>>>> Coordinator, Music Industry Program
>>>>> 138, Center for the Arts
>>>>> Minnesota State University Moorhead
>>>>> 1104 7th Ave. S., Moorhead, MN 56563 (USA)
>>>>> tel: (218) 477-2001; fax: (218) 477-4097
>>>>> email: harleyja@mnstate.edu
>>>>> URL: www.mnstate.edu/harley
>>>>> ***************************************************
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ***************************************************
>>> James Harley, Assistant Professor
>>> Coordinator, Music Industry Program
>>> 138, Center for the Arts
>>> Minnesota State University Moorhead
>>> 1104 7th Ave. S., Moorhead, MN 56563 (USA)
>>> tel: (218) 477-2001; fax: (218) 477-4097
>>> email: harleyja@mnstate.edu
>>> URL: www.mnstate.edu/harley
>>> ***************************************************
>>>
>>
>>
> ***************************************************
> James Harley, Assistant Professor
> Coordinator, Music Industry Program
> 138, Center for the Arts
> Minnesota State University Moorhead
> 1104 7th Ave. S., Moorhead, MN 56563 (USA)
> tel: (218) 477-2001; fax: (218) 477-4097
> email: harleyja@mnstate.edu
> URL: www.mnstate.edu/harley
> ***************************************************
>



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