Re: speech, modelling, whither poesie?

Subject: Re: speech, modelling, whither poesie?
From: Kevin Austin (
Date: Sun Jun 06 2004 - 17:27:26 EDT

At 9:46 PM +0100 6/6/04, Richard Wentk wrote:
>I find a lot of Wergo/Empreintes stuff more interesting than
>hardcore Stocky, Boulez, Babbit and the rest of that Cold War
>musical totalitarianism.

Stockhausen, Boulez and Babbitt were alive on June 06, 1944, with S &
B(1) having lived in and under the Nazi regimes. There may be reasons
why the "Cold War" musical mind is different from those born after

The (Warsaw) ghetto itself was in ruins. Stroop reported that he had
captured 56,065 Jews ... He estimated that his units killed up to
7,000 Jews during the uprising. Approximately another 7,000 were
deported to Treblinka, where they were killed. The Germans deported
virtually all of the remaining Jews to the Poniatowa, Trawniki, and
Majdanek camps.

The Germans had planned to liquidate the Warsaw ghetto in three days,
but the ghetto fighters held out for more than a month.

>There is something vaguely offensive about the idea that if you
>don't like it and don't get why it's great, it's your fault for
>being ignorant.

An interesting perspective frequently found in the political right,
but this is not my premise when I start to teach about complex
concepts and 'difficult' ideas. I try to start from the position that
those who wish to find out more, come from a place where they have
not had the opportunity (resources) to find about these 'great'
works. It is for me not a matter of blame, but of circumstance.



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