Subject: Re: UNESCO-NICE (?)
From: maralefu@excite.com
Date: Wed Dec 02 1998 - 08:11:17 EST
Dear Jose Manuel,
On Wed, 2 Dec 1998 05:57:22 +0100, Jose Manuel Berenguer wrote:
> Hello
>
>>2)During this weekend I was re-reading a back >>issue of Contact! of 1994,
which has several >>letters by outstanding members of the ea/cm >>community
(Folkmar Hein, Daniel Leduc, etc.), >>all of them complaining against the
CIME/ICEM.
>>Although there are differencies about what >>they complain against the
CIME/ICEM there is >>one feature in common for all complaint >>letters: the
LACK OF DEMOCRACY in the >>CIME/ICEM.
>
>The most democratic and humanistic behaviour >nowadays, after Babilonian
Code, is Napolenic >code, where you are innocent if you are not >precisely
shown as not innocent with clear >experimental evidence. Like scientific
method, >you know this.I'm shure.
>
I believe I was clear enough when saying that there have never been
elections in the Argentinian national federation (FArME) during its whole
existence (15 years!), you can verify that yourself by observing that the
FArME has the same President and Vice since 1984... does this not show you
the lack of democracy in our federation?
>>3)Probably the most accurate example >>(worldwide well-known, by the way)
of a
>>non-democratic national federation that is >>member of the CIME/ICEM is
the
>>Argentinian national federation (FArME). The >>FArME is a national
federation that:
>> A)NEVER held elections since its inception >>(15 years ago), i.e., it
has the same >>President and VicePresident since then...
>> B)the FArME is member of the CIME/ICEM >>since its inception :-) i.e.,
15 years ago
>> C)through its President and Vice-President >>keeps a list of
Argentina-residents ea/cm >>composers in its "black books" so those
>>composers never or hardly ever can win a prize >>in the Bourges
International Electroacosutic >>Music Competition. Some of the composers
>>included in that discriminatory list are: >>Alejandro Iglesias-Rossi,
Ricardo Dal Farra >>and me.
>
>Ricardo Manolini, Alejandro Vinao, Mario >Verandi, Gabriel Valverde are
Argentinian,
Ricardo Mandolini, Alejandro Viñao, and Mario Verandi are not residents of
Argentina. Gabriel Valverde is not in Kropfl's black books, I told you that
privately.
Kropfl (the de-facto President of the FArME) practices his opressive policy
by keeping certain Argentina-resident composers in his black books for the
Bourges competition.
>I think, Gabriel Brncic is Chilian, I know, >but he has Argentinian
Nationality when he won >at Bourges. They have nothing to do with >President
and Vicepresident of FArME, but they >won anyway.
>
Gabriel is out of the censorship list of Kropfl.
> A lot of people has never won at Bourges!!! >I've never won!! why should I
think that they >have some thing against me. Are you saying that
>you are better composer than me or some one >else who has never won at
Bourges and don't >ask himself why?
We have clear evidences of the Kropfl censorship we are victims. We have
nothing of paranoia and our complaints are not based on a narcisistic
criteria at all.
Every time we entered the Bourges ea competition we knew in advance that we
were going to be eliminated in the preselection. I further told you that in
our private messages some months ago.
> You are the only one who is saying this kind >of things.
Very wrong! There are several people (in and out of Argentina) who know
Kropfl opressive and nazi-fascist policy very well. Jon Appleton is one of
them.
>You should solve by yourself your political >problems in Argentina, if you
have it.
we need the help of the ea/cm international community for that. Chile alone
cannot put Pinochet in jail, the contribution of Spain (above all, as you
know), England, Switzerland, et al, was very important.
>Argentina is a Democratic country nowadays.
yes, our country is democratic but not our national federation.
>I can't do it for you. If we (ICEM Board)
> had any evidence of your statements... but >this are only statements. You
have never sent >any document. We need documents.
>
Given the nature of the CIME/ICEM and the fact that you are one of the very
few (if not the only) democratic person in the CIME Board, most of my
colleagues consider useless to submit you those documents.
> >This brings us to another serious problem related to the CIME/ICEM: the
> >Bourges International Electroacoustic Music Competition is a CORRUPTED
> >competition. Argentina is not the only country affected by this
situation,
> >of course.
>
> This are also statements. I would be heappy >if we could build something
together
>
I am at your disposal to collaborate but, what can we do to improve
matters?
>Bourges has nothing to do with CIME. Nothing. >Synthese, the festival,
invites ICEM >Federations to apply whiht a program. This is >the whole
relation you can find! And is the >only relation existing!!!
Definitively,
>the Price of Bourge hasn't any relation with >ICEM
Take a look at the Argentinian composers included by the Argentinian
federation in the Synthese Festival: certain names are never featured. The
responsible of that censorship
is the same person who exercises it for the BOurges competition and who is
the "lifetime" President of the Argentinian President...
>You should ask directly Mr. Huot speak by >himself and not say which is not
sure at all. >Mr Huot is the General Secretary of ICM. He >works, of course,
at ICM, but how do you can >speak by himself if you don't know what is he
>doing at ICM?
>
I simply said that I wrote to him asking about the IREM and which
international ea/cm org. is going to be calling the IREM along with the IMC
of the UNESCO. It was only to have his confirmation. I do know what his
position is at the IMC.
> All people at ICEM are democratic! We have >___all___ fight, ___and very
hard___, for >Democracy and democratic matters. We are >already fighting!!!
All!! You can't state this >things as you do.
>
Kropfl democratic???? Francoise Barriere??
Jose Manuel, I think you have drunk a lot of wine tonight...
With my very best,
Martin Fumarola
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